Persimmons, salad, and buttermilk rolls. Yum!
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Alan, your descriptions how you killed that pet doe is gross. You reminded a couple weeks ago about me using the word stupid. Don’t get it.
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@ampersand … I know of two american persimmons that still have some fruit on.
I noticed one last week right beside our local Walmart parking lot… small tree… lots of fruit… perfect easy picking height.
Noticed your row cover tunnels are working nicely. Mine are too… I have over grazed my spinach… but everything else is keeping up nicely to our demands.
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I have a sister that has a dozen eating her fruit/flowers even at her back door…if could only round en’ up and send you some!
Still getting all the greens we can eat from the hoop house. I open and close it every night and morning so it doesn’t fry the plants.
Today is my 13th wedding anniversary. I picked my awesome wife a bouquet of carrots and radishes. She is very appreciative of all the food (and me).
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This is my Nikita’s Gift, delicious!
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60% of our forests are owned by mostly a handful of big timber companies. the biggest is called Irving. a Canadian company. their practice is to clear cut a diversified forest. flatten everything to the ground and plant back monoculture fast growing softwood stands that are used for lumber. seen them routinely cut hundreds of acres of huge hardwood mountains and replant with Norway spruce. then they spray with herbicides from helicopters to keep any hardwoods from coming back. this has been going on for 40 + years now and there is very little hardwoods left. gone are the days the beech trees dropping their nuts for the animals to eat. nothing survives on evergreen here except hares. even quality firewood is getting rare and expensive. everyone that’s tried pushing back at these companies is defeated. when politicians try to pass laws to restrict their practices in any way, they threaten to close their hundreds of thousands of acres to public access. check out google maps and look at north western Maine. its horrible.
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Within the rules of the forum you can make such a comment via personal message, or you can flag the comment, although I’d prefer the former. Critical remarks like calling a comment gross are not what I consider civil.
It wasn’t a pet doe, it was a wild animal behaving like a tame one because it had been feeding close to homes- probably on valuable landscape plants without suffering any consequences for too long. When wild animals begin acting like pets I believe in eliminating them but also sustaining lots of open land to let such species survive.
Killing animals is brutal business, and I was purposely describing it as such. That animal had as much a right and will to live as I do, but she violated the rules I impose as the stronger species. I claim the property she chose to browse on as my own, but her ancestors were grazing their long before mine came from Europe.
From the perspective of the deer, my behavior was not just gross, but murder.
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What wrong just saying , I got one or I just shot one. These animals don’t know any better, they are not as smart as humans.
My property has a bunch of animals, the usual ones including deer, grow plenty of fruits and they get their share. As far as property goes, you are just the legal tender. Just make sure you keep your payments up.
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There’s nothing wrong with saying that, and there is nothing wrong with a more elaborate description as long as it is within the rules of the forum, but a criticism of a comment that is within the rules of forum is best left out of the public laundry. It is similar to calling someone else’s comment stupid, which you referred to.
You suggested I was doing something similar while you were doing something similar. I didn’t.
I think these animals do know quite a bit, otherwise during hunting season bucks wouldn’t make themselves so scarce.
I’m not really sure what you are objecting to, do you find the act of hunting gross? Or is it just having it graphically described to you?
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Alan, I didn’t call anybody stupid! A stupid observation is different.
I didn’t say you called someone stupid, I said you called someone’s comment stupid, but let’s just move on. It’s no big deal one way or another and it isn’t about growing more food.
@steveb4… we had a similar situation here in TN with big timber companies for many years.
Between high school and college I actually worked for one (Western Craft… name changed to Willamette as I was working for them) 1980-1983 or so… I was in a 25-30 man crew that did reforestation… After they clear cut huge tracts of timber (hardwoods)… during the spring and summer months we would go in and kill what remained… even after clear cutting there are lots of smaller trees left, old hollow or crooked trees or trees they simply did not harvest like doogwoods, redbuds, sourwoods, etc… We killed everything else… hatchet… ring around the tree, and then a chemical was squirted in the cut… they died in no time. Then in the fall they cut fire breaks around the tracts with bulldozer and we burned what was left… then in the winter months we planted pines… By hand, with a pine setting hand tool. 1500 seedlings planted in a little over half a day, and 60.00 pay. That was in the early 80’s and that continued for several years here in TN… The two big companies I remember were Willamette and Champion. I think it was in the early 2000’s that they both sold their land and left TN. I think they figured out that growing Pine in TN was not nearly as profitable as it is further south (GA, AL, FL). Good for us I guess.
We do still have a lot of hardwood timber here. Our deer and turkey are still doing well.
I drove to town this evening to fill up my wife’s Toyota Camry gas tank… and on the way home up our driveway a nice 6 pointer and doe ran across the road right in front of me and crossed my field. Looked like it could have been that same buck we saw Saturday morning.
PS… I ate all 5 of those persimmons for desert after dinner tonight and we had a good salad from my garden bed and some very tasty hickory (shag and mocker) nuts.
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My brother has hunting land (woods/crop fields) and has a young orchard (apples/pears) and he was mad because a deer ate one of his apples although there is a huge amount of standing corn 20 yards away. I just laughed and told him to get use to it. All the trees have fencing around them but this one got knocked over and was exposed. Amazing how quickly those giant rabbits find what they like. I guess a buck destroyed one of his nicest white pines he put in a few years ago–he says the woods are full of trees and the stupid thing has to ruin my pine…lol…i told him he needs to shoot them or invite people to come shoot them.
My nephew last week witnessed a lynx (bobcat?) attack a fawn (jumped on it) but the fawn got away.
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Or just plant some extra trees. Bucks around here tend to only choose, at most, about 4 of my nursery trees- always the closest point to the woods. Just found a completely girdled young peach tree yesterday- the first total fatality for a long while. There were others right next to it that it hadn’t rubbed at all.
For the white tails around here, all you need is a 3’ tall tube of 14 gage steel fencing to discourage rubbing, so we put that up to protect the nearby peach trees. There are still over 100 peaches and nects not protected at all, but if this is like most years, no more will be killed by buck rub and any damage will be relatively minor.
I’m not sure what climate peanuts need to grow well but there are plenty of farms growing them in Alabama. This would be another high protein food source as is beans and lentils. I like the taste of all three. One advantage with peanuts is that they can be eaten raw.
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We had 28/29 this morning… our hardest frost so far.
My greens in my floating row cover tunnel… I put a few extra old bed sheets on top to give them a little more protection.
I expect they will be fine.
I do have a bed of mostly collards with some spinach boc choi …that is not protected.
They are looking a little frosty this morning… but I think they will recover.
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A couple months ago… I scratched up the bark a bit on this loganberry cane and buried about a foot of it around 4 inches deep. Put that brick on top.
I left the growing tip out and as logans do… it grew a lot. Near 6 ft tall now and still growing. Logans are pretty frost hardy… we have had 3 or 4 now and so far have not phased it.
This baby will be cranking out berries late May n June next spring.
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