Has anyone bought a red mulberry that is actually morus rubra?

Basically the title, I have been looking at every nursery that I can find for Morus Rubra, even bought a few, but all of them come out hybrid. does anyone sell this as a pure species? Does it even still exist? I have heard in the american south pure species red mulberry is not hard to come by, but then why does no one sell it?

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I don’t know of any nursery selling them. There are probably 50 or 60 pure Morus rubra trees in the edge of my yard. I’m marking a few of them that are small enough to dig up so they can be sent to friends this winter. I have no idea male or female, just that they are rubra.

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hello it is me, your friend

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Do you have trees to graft on? I can send scions a lot easier than dig up trees.

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hm, i mean i have some hybrid mulberries in the ground right now, but id worry suckering

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Paint the grafts so you know where the graft line is on the tree. Suckers are fairly easy to control on morus.

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im willing to try then!

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Pm your address and I’ll put it down to send you some scions and maybe 1 or 2 dug up trees sometime around February.

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And here i thought we we’re friends? :pensive:. Just kidding :grin:

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Thank you, I needed that chuckle!

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Nativ Nurseries has them.

I bought one a few years back. It has just fruited a bit but the birds ate most of them so I couldn’t observe any white mulberry traits. There are whites/crosses that grow near so I have seen the white and light purple berries and shiny/darker green leaves before. The one I bought seems to be pure but I’m not 100%.

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send me leaf pics and i can help id :slight_smile:

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Ok, I’ll send some pics tomorrow.

  1. Here is the purchased one from Nativ Nurseries

    Wanted to see what you thought about these two volunteers:
  2. Popped up in an unused pot with small amount of soil
  3. Popped up next to my garden

Interestingly LeafSnap says Red Mulberry for 1&2 while 3 is Red or White.

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this is very promising, it looks quite high red %. The leaf margins do show some convex-ness, but mostly its finely serrate. The petiole are lacking the ridge down the center that alba has and many hybrids. the accumate tip comes to a nice long point which is characteristic on red, even on the lobes. The upper surface of the leaf shows the pronounced side veins which is a characteristic of red. I think i’ll buy a few and grow em in pots till their genders show eachother since theyre so affordable. The only thing mising from your top photo is the under side of the leaf, let me know if theyre fuzzy, and if they are is it along the major veins or everywhere.

your other ones look much more white% they do have a bit of a tip, but their leaf margins are not as fine and very convex, they lack the pronounced veins on top, and they have the indent in the petiole. 2 does look more red than 3, so the leaf snap has some idea, but id say its still mostly white

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Cool. Glad I was able to help you find a possible source for the Reds. Nativ Nurseries has YouTube vids and they say they try to collect seeds far from Urban areas and known areas that have White trees. I’ll send a leaf underside pic a bit later. Cheers

Here is Rubra side by side with a hybrid. It’s easy to tell side by side


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There is no doubt in my mind that the purchased plant is M.rubra. The two volunteers are, I think, either hybrid or mostly M.alba.

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I will also have some scions this winter from 3-4 different female rubras with good fruit that I found during the last 2 years. I will probably collect them sometime in early to mid December.

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i have a little doubt just because phenotype is not always 100% of the story, it may well have some alba dna. But definately primarily rubra