This is my 3rd year in a row Leahmans Delight has struck out for me. I tried different trees and everything. Meanwhile all the other persimmon grafts did fine. Nikitas Gift is a waste of time. I’m grafting mine over to something else soon.
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Meanwhile my Nikita’s gift is loaded with hundreds of fruit. Minimal fruit drop this year.
I will be trying it alongside 9-12 other varieties.
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Is this one you grafted yourself or purchased? Also what rootstock is it on? A local fellow has a huge NG tree that bears an abundance of fruit, so there has to be something to this variety. This year is my 4th year failing to graft it and I already had 2 trees fail previously despite excellent success with kaki and other hybrids.
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Before my Nikita’s. Gift croaked this year, I have grafted many varieties on it. Half of the grafts did not take, the other half took and grew well that same year. Then, they all died the year or two after grafting.
The only graft that did well and fruited was Prok. However, NG decided to die this year. I planted it in 2015. It gave me about 11-12 fruit total, 9 one year and 3 the following year.
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Mine was purchased in 2017 - grafted on DV.
I have grafted Nikita’s gift on DV in subsequent years with no difficulty. I have also given scionwood to others who were successful in grafting it.
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My was grafted on on D. Virginiana, too. I bought the tree from Burnt Ridge Nursery. Nothing that I grafted on it worked except for Prok.
I grafted Tam Kam, Chuchupaka, Inchon, JT-02 and a few others that could remember the names. None worked…
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My source was one green world. Maybe there is/was a difference between the two.
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I can buy large potted ones locally around here. They look like they’re in 7 gallon pots and perhaps lotus rootstock. Do I really need another persimmon tree though with 16 in the ground already fruiting?
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Yes, yes you do.
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@ramv
There definitely was something different between your NG and my NG. Since it aggravated me for 8 years. I have no interest in growing it again. .
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How tall is that tree? My 2nd leaf Chuchupaka threw a couple flower buds this year at roughly 12" tall. They dropped off before getting anywhere close to opening, but I was still impressed. It put on another 10" this year, so maybe next year is the bumper crop!
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Maybe 4 feet from soil level? Not very large. It just wants to produce.
Meanwhile another chuchupaka from a different source in ground is huge (8 feet or so) with no fruit. I think pots make all fruit trees precocious.
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I grafted Inchon and Chuchupaka on the NG and on my rootstock. The one on NG survived for 2 years and died with NG this year.
The one on rootstock grew a bit and died.
I tried Chuchupaka and other persimmons, courtesy of @SMC_zone6 . It tasted alright. Still, I prefer Yates. I like the gooey, intensely flavorful, wrinkly Yates.
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So I did buy 2 new cultivars that One Green World recently posted on their website. 
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I put my bets on Prok, but it sounds like Yates might have more of the traditional American persimmon flavor I’m looking for. Might have to graft a branch to compare…
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What do people think of Meader? Some people I know in California rave about its flavor.
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I’ve heard some people rave about Meader and others say that it is seedy and average. I haven’t tasted it myself.
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Meader is good. Not the largest variety though. Mine usually have 2-4 seeds, but all varieties do. I have several varieties and Meader keeps it’s space in the orchard. It’s claim to fame is it’s cold hardy.
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We have no male trees in the west so all American persimmons are seedless. Size also doesn’t matter all that much if your fruit are seedless anyway.
Going by pure flavor, Meader appears to be up there.
But I have A118,H118, Morris Burton, Dec wannabe2, H63a,Prok and many hybrids and Asians. Don’t feel the need to add more.
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