Large persimmon tree, small roots

Hello everyone, I’m a new member here. Nice to meet you all. It’s a wonderful forum to share our experiences with each other and spread information faster. Thanks to the forum owners.

I’m a newer/younger gardener myself. My favorite fruits are figs, persimmons, peaches, mangoes, and pomegranates. Other edibles that I love are pecans, apricots, dates (especially barhi dates), cantaloupes, olives, and lemons. If I had the space and ideal zone I would grow all of these.

My question today is regarding persimmons. I am new to growing them. I have two issues/concerns.

I recently purchased a 5 Gallon Prok persimmon from a reputable online nursery. This was the only size they had in stock. The tree itself is large (6 feet tall and 1 inch thick trunk). When I transplanted the tree, I was surprised to see 50-60% of the soil fall off, leaving a small rootball. Is that normal for a 6 foot persimmon tree? In hindsight I could have probably saved a lot of money if I just bought the 1 gallon instead (it would be a smaller tree though). They didn’t have it in stock, but moving forward I might opt for smaller trees if I have the choice. I know persimmons aren’t a great choice for bareroot, so I couldn’t avoid the pots with this purchase.

Also, Ive heard persimmons have a “taproot”. I didn’t really see one or feel around for one at that moment, as I was too busy being surprised with the size of the rootball.

Thanks for your help

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Welcome to the forum. Sounds like a re-potted bare root tree. Many nurseries buy bare root trees to pot and re-sell. I have had the exact same thing happen to me. My online persimmon luck is somewhat low. Where did you find a 6 foot potted Prok at? It’s pretty hard to find one taller than a foot or two.

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General recommendation is to purchase mid-size trees. Using pecan as an example, small trees (4 feet and under) may go through transplant shock so severe the tree dies. Larger trees don’t have a root system to support the larger tree size. Mid-range pecan trees (6 feet tall,. usually about 1 inch diameter at 4 ft, tend to have less transplant shock and a better root to stem ratio.

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From Edible Landscaping. I know they now source their stuff from outside vendors.

If they do buy bare root and repot and resell, I don’t know how I feel about that, because we end up paying a ton for potting soil.

Hopefully the weak roots wont affect long term growth, with the taproot missing and whatnot.

Any nurseries you recommend for buying persimmon trees specifically?

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Plant Me Green usually has some smaller ones priced ok. I’ve had good luck with theirs. I’m not sure if EL grafts their own or re-pots bare root. I haven’t had any of their stuff die though.

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It must be recent. I thought they did everything themselves.

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