This is a work in progress for D. virginiana x kaki etc. hybrids available in the U.S.
Please see the last PDF update below.
This is a work in progress for D. virginiana x kaki etc. hybrids available in the U.S.
Please see the last PDF update below.
Oh goodness⌠I wanted to start a site with this information but havenât put in the time to make it happen. I think a list here would be a great start. Ideally Iâd like to do something that has Alllll persimmon varieties both D and V but itâs an undertaking.
Separating into female, hermaphroditic, and male categories would be beneficial too (amongst other parameters like cold hardiness which has already been touched on in other threads).
@39thparallel Can you help out with this list when you hit a slower time. I only know a few of these like Nikitas gift which we loved. Nikitas gift is more of a 6B or 7a persimmon. @39thparallel could grow Nikitas gift part of the time but could expect die back sometimes. @tonyOmahaz5 experienced some persimmon dieback in zone 5. My zone is in the middle more of a 5b or 6a zone. @Barkslip has a bunch of these.
Sestronka
Kasandra
Zima Khurma
JT-02
Nikitas gift
Prok
Tecumseh
Meader
Rossyanka
Saijo
suruga
maekawa jiro
Englands is always coming up with new persimmons.
Take a look at this tomato wiki maintained by Tatiana. She also has beans, beets, carrots, lettuce, etc. I suggest setting up a wiki for Persimmons. Maybe contact Tatiana. I think she speaks Russian and perhaps Ukrainian as well as English.
https://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Category:Tomato_Variety_List
There IS a persimmon varieties web page kicking around somewhere, I have to dig to find it. It is far from complete though.
Setting up a wiki is easy, but first a database is needed. Thatâs what we are collecting here â albeit for hybrid species only.
https://plantdatabase.earth/persimmon
Here is the best list of all persimmons Iâve seen other than what is scattered on the forum.
I couldnât open it for some reason
Wayback machine had it saved.
https://plantdatabase.earth/persimmon
âHere is the best list of all persimmons Iâve seenâ
I believe the link below is the current home for the plant database. Mostly good info on a lot of plants.
Other important characteristics: fruit size; ripening time; ability for parthenocarpy.
Please check for accuracy. Additions and corrections are welcome
Name | Parentage | Sex(es) | Parthenocarpic | Astringent | Estimated °F Cold Hardiness | Fruit Degree Days | Fruit Largest Diameter | Fruit Shape | U.S. Sources |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Chuchupaka | both | PCA | -20 | ||||||
Dr. Kazas | Nikitaskaya Bordovaya x OP | female | PCA | -22 | |||||
Gora Goverla | female | PCA | -8 | ||||||
Gora Rogers | female | PCA | -8 | ||||||
Gora Roman Kosh | female | ? | ? | -8 | |||||
JBT-06 | Josephine D.v. x Taishu D.k. | female | PCA | -22 | |||||
Mikkusu / JT-02 | Josephine D.v. x Taishu D.k. | female | PCA | -22 | |||||
Nikitskaya Bordovaya | female | PCA | -10 | ||||||
Pamjat Pasenkova | ? | PCA | -10 | ||||||
Rosseyanka | female | PCA | -13 | ||||||
Sestronka / NB-21 | Josephine D.v. x Taishu D.k. | female | PCA | -8 | |||||
Sosonvskaya | female | PCA | -20 | ||||||
Super Rosseyanka | female | PCA | -13 | ||||||
tbd | Rosseyanka x Honan Red | ? | PCA | > 0 | |||||
Zima Khurma / NB-02 | Josephine D.v. x Taishu D.k. | ? | PCA | ? |
Gora Roman Kosch =female
JBT 06 = male + female
Pasenkova = female
Honan red Ă Rossey = 4 different varieties with this cross, some bear male flowers.
NB n°2= female.
Also add to the list are Dar Sofiyivky -20F that I am going to graft in April. Also the 2 hybrids PVNA from Cliff Costata X Rossey -20F, and Jerry Lehman Rossyanka male offspring OP -33F in Omaha, and Rossyanka male used to cross of the new hybrids.
Tony
Dar sofiyivky = Sofiaâs gift =female flowers only
There are other Costata x Rossey crosses.
I recommend naming the 2 in question
I grafted another Costata x rossey
âNikitskaya Bordovayaâ is an open-pollinated seedling of âRosseyankaâ
Gora Roman Kosh is an open-pollinated seedling of âNikitskaya Bordovayaâ
âPamyat Pasenkovaâ (Memory of Pasenkov) â a sport (bud mutation) of âRosseyankaâ, characterized by better resistance to late-winter and early-spring frosts.
âFruit Largest Diameterâ â Ukrainian sources typically describe fruit size in terms of its mass in grams.
Clifford England has (2) males with his handwriting on the bags they state with quotes not italics:
â-22 Rosseymaleâ
â-11 Rosseymaleâ or I think he just writes âRosseymaleâ
Jerry Lehmanâs male that Tony and I will use is:
â400-5â hardy to at least -31 F.
Kuji Naja is one of the two hardy hybrid-PVNAâs of Cliff England. Itâs edible when hard but only if it is pollinated. The other I donât know the name but it is an astringent hybrid-PVA. Both are Costata x Rosseymale(s) that are of Cliff origin that David Lavergne used. Cliff planted both in a single hole and tagged each.
NB-21 / âSestronkaâ is 0 F
Dax
You can add Cherniaev memory = female flowers only
Krimkaya 55 = female flowers only