Respecto de: Cómo cultivar un azufaifo o jinjolero: un frutal para cuerpo y mente
Very good article. It did give “mi español” a workout… is azulfaifo and jinjolero interchangeable? I read somewhere that azufaifo was ziziphus lotus but this article made a distinction and used it as Z. jujuba. What do you know about ziziphus lotus?
It also said that the trees did not reach full production until they were ~20 years old but could start harvesting nice fruits at 5-6 years. Sooooo, because of jujus eagerness to bear fruit early perhaps we really expect our trees to be prolifically productive way before they are ready. ??? Or does this article just sell them short??
i think they are interchangeable, but that is basing it on what i see at Lowe’s , lol
z. lotus is a true middle eastern/north african native, and might be adam and eve’s juju ‘apple’…
that is probably accurate for their locale.Perhaps juju trees there continue to branch out significantly(hence more fruits overall). Especially if irrigated…
here juju trees don’t get much taller and does not branch out as much at around 5 years of age.
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Every fruit I’ve eaten from cultivars named Winter Delight has had mediocre to average fruit. The jujube lady in Salinas, CA had one to sell the last time I visited her but I didn’t buy it because the fruit was just not good enough. The fruit was much smaller and tasted different than the OGW WD, but the taste was no better.
I just don’t want people to confuse Autumn Beauty, which is really good, and OGW’s WD. I no longer pay any attention to the Chinese names because I don’t think they are authentic.
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yeah, it seems like ogw have two winter delight’s. The one that you obtained many years ago, and the one that i have now.
am just really perplexed as that nursery trademarked the name
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This one’s hot off the press. A good read , just hoping will someday have a sequel re: clones on own roots, which for some reason not given much importance
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41438-020-00346-5
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introducing ‘vegas lucky’. A seedling from sihong seed that took 3 yrs to start bearing flowers, and only on its 4th year did it produce fruits. It seems capable of producing them in bunches as shown below, and the average size(for a first crop, apart from being in potted condition) indicate bigger fruits in the future.
has a tinge of sihong in flavor and texture, and quite juicy despite our recent 110F’s. It is superior to hj and sc in my opinion. Can’t wait to poach root cuttings this winter!
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My Sihong fruits are coming along nicely this year. Last year they were very small.
My HJ fruits are about gone. Not even a hundred in the tree this year. Most of my fruits are sub par too. Rain has split them and bugs attacking the open fruit. Other fruit shriveling on the trees before ripening …so I don’t understand what is going on…
So I post pictures of the few doing well…
XuZhou fruits are bigger than last year and good amount
Massandra has two dozen or so fruits and isn’t two foot tall and is blooming again
This is a 2017 SiHong seedling. Scant blooms no fruit. It stands 5 foot tall. Kinda resembles a wild jujube so the only thing that makes me think it might have better fruit is that it hasn’t fruited yet… I have a wild jujube the same age and about the same size that has fruited the last two years. This one has a couple of late blooms on it. I have a sucker from it in a pot. It has not bloomed yet.
Love seeing all the pictures of your fruits and trees!
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Vegas lucky sounds great with all the casinos around you!! I would love to invite Vegas Lucky to Omaha!
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in such a hurry to send out rations of the little twiggies, and hopefully root cuttings!
have to say this v. lucky is the most exciting new cultivar have come up with-- after booty 
that is so nice to look at. Glad your sihong is establishing itself well. The foliage and branching look really healthy too!
tambien aqui!
here are our xu zhou and r4t3 grafts on li interstem. Xu zhou is sadly prone to cracking where we’re at…
and below are so and so…
the three bigger ones on my palm are jfae’s, whereas the three smaller ones on my fingers are burntridge’s. Jfae’s is more juicy and have better flavor, while burntridge’s is a bit dry and so-so
in flavor when ripened at the height of summer.
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jfae’s ga-866 that was about to be dropped due to localized ‘early autumn’ i posted at another thread .
it is the real ga866, btw. Sugary good even though aborted half-way
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My XuZhou is prone to cracking too but they are not close enough to ripening to crack yet. HJ, Sugar Cane, Chico have been ripe. Even Autumn Beauty is dragging its debut out this year.
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My Massandra came from OGW and I received it August 2017. It has not put out primary growth in the 3 years. It always puts out these very long fruiting stems and each year has more fruit. I just ate the first to ripen and the only one near ready. Picked late in afternoon on hot day and it was excellent. Fruits this year are bigger and about three times more than last year.
Top right corner branchlet… new blooms. I have several trees with a flush of new blooms and fruitlets. In my zone they just might have time to ripen.
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This is Mango Dong Zho (Winter Delight) from JF&E on its own roots. About 3 fruits from spring and then a new bloom flush and fruits. We discussed last year the similar fruits and ripening time to Autumn Beauty. Two fruits pictured. Thoughts??? My Autumn Beauty fruits are close to the same stage of ripening…maybe a little closer Than these fruits.
Can’t see thorns on this tree except for a lower branch that is just springing up… check these out. And one pic for size and contrast. 
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my masandra from ogw is runty too. Was thinking it was due to it being potted. But looking at yours, it makes me think it might be the rootstock that’s delaying vegetative growth. Possible that they have been using the same rootstock(suckers from one source). My autumn beauty from ogw is likewise sluggish in growth
thought i’d ask–all the photos below the paragraph i just quoted, are those all pictures of the winter d that you obtained from jfae?
seems to be autumn beauty(the autumn beauty that i know of, that is)
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Yes, these are all photos of the same tree. We had this discussion last year too with it’s one lone fruit. Those are wicked thorns, aren’t they?
I think Charlie Brown decorated that Massandra!
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Hahahahaha. Actually that is “Tree by Kevin”…Kevin Kubota that is. It is so short it gets covered in grass clipping tinsel. But yes, those globes really pull it over—I’m glad there is more than one!!
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wicked, forward-tilting spikes make me think autumn beauty… And the fruits seem to be AB as well
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The 2nd picture doesn’t look like the 3rd and 4th, which look much wider, rather than long and thin. My Mango Dong from JFaE looks like the 2nd picture.
Right now they are among the largest jujus, though I’m not sure where they will end up. I planted the tree last year, so it is still pretty young. A few Shanxi Li may be bigger.
Bok Jo isn’t quite as big as the biggest Mango Dong, but there are a lot of them and they are close in size.
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Just wanted to update my experience with So Contorteds from various sources. Burnt Ridge contorted fruit is dry and tasteless, will probably graft over it. England’s and OGW fruit are fairly similar - crunchy sweet with a bit of tart.
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The second picture is of new fruitlets that have just started growing. Third and fourth picture are of early spring fruit that is about to ripen. Several of my trees are putting on new fruit.
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