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i don’t have buluoshou either, unfortunately… I hope your putative specimen is the real deal, as quite possibly— the only clone available in usa! In connecticut of all places!

re: jujus from USDA’s or TVA’s field stations, we currently have chico, r4t3, ga-866, and gi-1183 as self-rooted specimens. Should be great alternatives to insure their survival (or more importantly, preservation) in regions which could decimate grafts due to severe dieback…

yeah, so much in a hurry to mass-produce desirable cultivars as self-rooted clones.
For the sole purpose of donating to as many people as we can:)

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so we just posted the Tree-giving this T-giving at our experimental youtube channel. Intent is to widen the audience pool as well as to invite more folks to join Growingfruit :slight_smile:

freebies are for everyone(first-come first-served basis), regardless of whether or not you’ve received anything from us in the past

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@BobVance @KYnuttrees @scottfsmith

Brix sounds right. What is weight and shape? It’s noted to have excessive vegetative growth without putting much vertical vigor. The fruit should also not fall from the tree when ripe, hence the name. Texture should be close to that of a drying variety rather than fresh.

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Size was at least medium-large, maybe large. I didn’t weigh it, but I’d guess about 15 grams. It didn’t put on that much vertical growth, compared to the other grafts on the tree. I picked it, so I don’t know about it falling. I don’t have that many jujubes which fall anyway, though that may just have to do with me picking them before they get to that point.
Here’s the pic from the other thread.

The one thing which doesn’t match is that the texture seemed fine for fresh eating to me. But, this site is very good at keeping moist enough to grow well, without being water-logged. That’s probably why both jujubes and the lawn grow twice as fast as elsewhere.

But, this was just a new graft, and it’s hard to draw many conclusions from a single fruit. :slight_smile:

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That looks roundish? Bul Lou Su Zao (according to the nursery reports and pictures in China), should be elongated kind of like a barrel with a flatten top and bottom. It’s considering a late variety, maturing in 110 days. It should have a bumpy skin/surface (basically not smooth) with a concave top.

Average measurements for fruit (obviously there is variation due to lack of uniformity) - 4.45cm (length) x 3.22 cm (width) x 2.8 cm (diameter) , 1.75 in x 1.27 in x 1.10 in

Leaf - tapering to a point, rounded base 5.1cm x 2.6cm, 2 in x 1 in

peduncle should be thin and long.

I was just rereading. It has been sold fresh, but it’s uncommon because it is considered to be very unproductive (relative to newer varieties) and is known to be susceptible to jujube witches broom. Hence, it’s not involved in many new plantings.

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really like the informative correspondence @BobVance and @JustPeachy :slight_smile:

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Jujubes dangling in late November with the weather temperature near 60s.

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a recent publication sure worth reading. Seems like Romanians are just as keen on jujubes as the Aussies are

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351690613_Review_on_Some_Features_of_the_Chinese_Jujube_Ziziphus_jujuba_Mill

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when propagating trees, grafting evokes a bit of technique and art(and glamour) compared to poaching root cuttings. There’s not much technique involved with obtaining root cuttings and definitely not glamorous nor artistic, lol!
but with jujus, the end justifies the means. As the resulting products are way more desirable than the grafted counterparts. Can;t wait to populate otherwise barren and drought/pest-ridden regions of this planet with self-rooted jujubes! Spinosa-type rootstocks were our good buddies for a long time, but now dumping them as we have new BFF’s

below is our ~4 yr old seed-grown juju(vegas lucky) rootball subjected to its very first amputations of lower extremities. A compulsory organ donor yearly-- for the rest of its life. And intend for all its clones to undergo the same and broadcast to as many friends/family or even random folks we will never ever meet :slight_smile:

below is the mother plant surrounded by the “yield” buried in these pots. Just hoping >50% of these will launch upright stems this spring…

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is Fucuimi early, mid or late ripening?

Does anyone grow jujube variety name Dragon, Huizao, Kongfucui , Maya?

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Fucuimi is early/mid.
Maya is superb.
Dragon is a pretty tree but I found the fruit to be very average.

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micro growth on a 1.5" sihong stem successfully rooted last year using IBA. Relieved to see it survive some freezing temps this winter despite its tiny size/scant food storage


below is R4T3 which was also rooted just last year. Hopefully will produce an upright this year, considering its sizeable caliper

strong upright developing on this self-rooted chico, survived its 2nd vegas’ winter after self-rooting back in 2020. I snipped off all its flowers last year so probably explains its vigorous growth

definitive growth on this self-rooted li, which is same age as the chico above. I let this one bear fruit last year, so probably why not inclined to develop an upright. Will be snipping off all its blooms this spring to encourage developing another upright

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My Kongfucui and Dragon haven’t fruited yet.

Per Dr Yao, Dragon is classed as ornamental, with “OK” flavor (matches Castanea’s assessment) and Kongfucui is “excellent”. She also published a paper which lists Kongfucui as the most productive cultivar (in terms of pounds produced).

Huizao is for reputedly for drying (I tend not to add those cultivars).

I agree with Castanea (and Dr Yao) that Maya is very good. I’ve only had a few fruit from mine, but it was crisp and tasty.

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i lost my maya graft but the few fruits produced when had it were also excellent in vegas conditions

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Dr Yao has pointed out to me that Maya and Massandra are very similar, and indeed they are. I think they’re different cultivars, but I’m not certain.

Maya:

Massandra:

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I’ve noticed the same thing. Both are good, but I thought Maya might be a bit better. Though it is based on a very small sample size. It could easily be that I put a bit of extra value onto Maya because it was so scarce…

Maybe I should graft a Massandra scion onto the Maya and see if I can tell the difference…

Another one that looks kind of similar (and good) from the pics and descriptions is Gaga. I’ve been asking Dr Yao’s husband about getting it (either tree form or as a scion) for years now, but they haven’t made it available yet.

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She mentioned Gaga to me as well. The photos certainly look similar but I’ve never tasted it.

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Another photo of Massandra fruit which doesn’t look as much like Maya-

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i also think maya and massandra aren’t the same thing, and that maya was better

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incicentally @castanea, porterville grafts seem to be doing great, and seems like will be developing an upright–can’t wait to get reacquainted ! :slight_smile:

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