vegas bolas-- similar to Sweet Tart @castanea .
incidentally, old fashioned pencil is now my preferred labeling instrument. The intense vegas sun bleaches even the most ‘permanent’ of markers. No radiation or heat can bleach or evaporate something that is based on coal/graphite. And moisture doesn’t dissolve or drench it since hydrophobic. Apart from accidental graft breakages, bleached tags were why we lost track of both maya and porterville. …
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Almost lost my Massandra in the big freeze but it grew back last summer and is showing even more growth now. Does the growth pattern of Massandra tend to be straight up? This one is growing very tall.
Porterville grafts. Thanks @castenea
LaFleur Thanks @thegardenfarmacy
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Try an engraver into aluminum flashing, and then you can use scrap wire to attach it! The flashing is built with outdoor paint and even if it wears off, you should still be able to make out the engraving.
I use tin snips to cut the flashing and a pair of vice grips to hold a bunch of tags together at the same time while I drill a hole to make a wire hole.
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Massandra is a very straight erect grower for me, as is Maya.
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great idea, apart from being way more presentable 
Here is my Booty (that sounds “rude” doesn’t it)
I decided it was time to get out of my house since it is getting a little gangly with not enough sun.
There is a story to tell with this one. 
. When I received it I put it in my scion fridge and left it for several days. When I got it out to plant it was frozen solid. Didn’t take long to spring back to life. I’ve since increased the temp of my scion fridge. 
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am afraid it might, especially if one’s domiciled in evangelical south. Here in vegas, we flaunt it all the time 
here in vegas, we’ve never really had icy temps for more than a few hrs each day–every winter after we’ve germinated v. booty. The inadvertent prolonged freezing your fridge “inflicted” on that tiny specimen (with an upright stem that was ~3 mm caliper) actually demonstrated its substantial ability to tolerate icy conditions, considering that it managed to regenerate from its equally tiny roots also ~3 mm caliper at the thickest. Also demonstrates how critically important being self-rooted is when it comes to jujubes.
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It actually did grow back from the stem about half way down. I was surprised being as small as it was but was at least hoping that it would spring up from the roots. (I actually thought it was toast….or rather the dead opposite of toast, being frozen) The picture makes it look like it has yellow spots on its leaves but that actually is “shine” and reflection. It looks very healthy except for being sun deprived. I’m impressed.
We never really have prolonged icy conditions except for last February when everything was frozen solid for a week. I know that is the normal for our northern friends. I didn’t know how all my potted seedlings would fair but surprisingly I lost very few of them.
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that is even better news! The stem proved its mettle despite its tiny size. While regenerating from the roots is great(as a last resort, since roots are inherently more tolerant of freezing temps), regenerating from a stem/trunk translates to earlier fruiting as dormant naked root cuttings(that yet don’t have stems) tend to leaf out much later from their dormant nodes compared to above-ground stem nodes.
what i mean is that if your v booty died back to the roots, it will probably be still leafless now. Which means it will be a bit deprived of photosynthesis and less likely to blossom compared to a specimen that already leafed out weeks ago.
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My 3 jujubes living in containers all survived … I moved each to a bigger container…but they have quite a bit of dead. I’ll just be happy they all have made it for 4 or 5 years.
I lost a So 3 years ago…puny from the start.
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hi @BlueBerry, i see you are in KY. Glad yours have survived above the grafts for many years. Was wondering if you are in an area prone to late arctic spells, or if you shelter your jujus in winter/early spring.
you’ve probably heard of sad news-- many of Cliff England’s nursery’s jujube trees(several of which were of Norris dam heritage) have succumbed to severe late frosts and died back below the grafts. Just hoping i can churn some self-rooted TVA cultivars fast enough to help him re-establish his jujube nursery since self-rooted clones have the added protection of ability to regenerate from roots(which is more tolerant of sub-freezing temps/late frosts than stems), so no graft junction to worry about.
also, if anyone reading this might have the cultivar R2T2, would really appreciate if kind enough to reach out to England’s nursery. He lost that cultivar several years ago to a late frost. I obtained it from Cliff before he lost his, but i lost some of my tags(cheap sharpie pens that have been complaining about) apart from not having “prime” locations to graft onto my trees at the time, so ended up grafting the lateral stem to another lateral. That single-noded stem with a still-legible tag survived and even produced fruits but did not produce an upright stem. Fruits seem sensitive to vegas summers, so decided to send back that one-and-only r2t2 but sadly his part of KY killed it with another unforgiving late frost.
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Apparently freezes, knee surgeries and stroke…are making life and fruit production difficult for the Englands.
just hoping things get better for him and their nursery. Can’t wait facilitate re-establish their juju nursery 
OK, I have no problem showing off my Booty either. Even though I’m much further North, it hasn’t ever frozen and has been sitting warm and snug in my living room in front of the sliding deck doors (plus a bit of grow light, though not very high wattage).
3mm? You must have sent her the bigger one- this one was 1-2mm (I guess I shouldn’t feel too bad about having a trim booty 
). I potted it up, but I had my doubts about it surviving, though it seems to be doing fine. I’ll probably wait another month or so before transitioning it outside. We aren’t entirely clear of frost potentials- I see a 37F low forecast for next week.
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I think your estimate was closer to the real! 
Which gives it even more survival credit!
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ok, seems like my guesstimate(with regards to booty measurement)was a tad grandiose, lol!
blame it on this “vegas mindset”
kidding aside, just glad they are alive and exhibiting tangible signs of toughness and promise. Booty seems to be happier on its own roots, so just hoping the trend applies to your respective locales . Keep me posted !
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@castanea I almost cut this off to regraft it thinking that it was death after the scion energy wore off. This is Baby Red and it’s soft and growing!!! Wow!
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Baby Red is always slow to leaf out and slow to set fruit but it always catches up.
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Did not expect the red growth though!
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quite intriguing that one! With other jujus inclined to produce a tinge of red on new growth, it is usually just the stem that exhibits the ruddy trait, never the foliage.
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