MULBERRIES what are you growing?!

Yes, each branch starts with ovate leaves and ends with the lobed ones



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It’s interesting that the graft of “Shelli” from you seems to have the opposite pattern. This is near the start of the flush:

And the newest leaves:

Unfortunately the Shelli I distributed is not the real Shelli but something producing small amounts of light colored fruits. I checked with the source I got this accession from and they confirmed the mistake. Unfortunately they and I started distributing this accession before confirming the fruit type. The only good thing about this fake Shelli is that it roots very easily. I planted 4 of these in my orchard and now will have to top work them. Probably can be used as rootstock for any other mulberry. Roots from both the green and the dormant cuttings.

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What a shame! What about the Galicia?

I planted my Morus nigra about two weeks ago. It had been two winters exposed in a pot and was growing nicely. I wadered by it today, and apparently deer like it as it has almost no leaves left and lots of crushed branch tips. :confused:

Galicia seems to be fine. The fruits are as expected

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It rooted easily for me as well, 100% success (2 of 2) from dormant cuttings.

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obviously any ‘Shelli’ is questionable now in light of this. should we understand this to mean that all Shelli in the US is ersatz? did you import this variety or has it been available through other sources? i received some scionwood from Ukraine (by way of another) last yearand more this year. i thought Shelli might have been in there but it wasnt. Galicia was though.

do you have the real McCoy now?

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No, I have not imported it directly but got it from another grower in the US. I don’t know if there is a real Shelli in the US yet. If you have the mulberry importation permit, please import it directly from Ukraine. In the picture attached, the Shelli fruit is in the hand. The screenshot was taken from the video in the link.

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i set out one of my 2 purported ‘Shelli’ grafts earlier. i didnt pay much attention to the fruit since they take a few years to start sizing up. The leaf pattern matches your description though @swincher


My scion came from Buzz at Perfect Circle in Berlin, VT

Hopefully the ‘Ukranian Giant’ I also set out is true. That looks like a good one, too. I believe that woodcame from Ukraine. i dont have an import permit, BTW, and am not sure the wood was brought in through the proper channels. I received it 2nd hand.

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Here’s my DMOR9 plant showing leaves. The grafted branches have the same leaves as these.





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my DMOR9- direct from GRIN:



i was beginning to wonder if this was really worth growing. all fruit dropped last year before achieving good quality. much better this year. theyre long, plump, and pretty darned tasty. i ordered from GRIN based on the bogus Seed Saver’s Exchange description on the GRIN site suggesting it is fully hardy. it decidedly is not. still not sure its a worthwhile endeavor, but ill keep it for now.

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Does the fruits taste better than Black Pakistan or Red Himalayan?

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i think Red Himalayan = DMOR 9

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Fruits look similar but I don’t think they are the same. I have many large Red Himalayan and the fruits are long but much skinnier. Taste is not juicy but sweet.




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There appear to be lots of long skinny red varieties.
There is one called Skinner, it may or may not be the same as Taiwan long. There is also one called red shahtoot which is big in Australia.
DMOR9 aka Himalayan is definitely different and according to many people, the best tasting.

I have DMOR9 and Black Pakistan and have been sampling them for 3 years now. First two years, I wasn’t sure if DMOR9 is significantly different than Black Pakistan. This year, I can clearly taste the difference. DMOR9 has more acid and definitely taste more balanced compared to Black Pakistan which is a sugar cube with a mild background flavor. Also GRIN info on hardiness of DMOR9 is definitely wrong. It is early fruiting and get snapped by cold even in coastal zone 9B! It is so prolific that even when the tips are damaged there’s enough fruits that ripen later

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Thanks for your observations. Even Pakistan gets some dieback here! Saharanpur died halfway back and got major trunk damage!
So DMOR9 is probably going to need substantial protection in zone 8B.

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does anyone get viable seed from their IE mulberry?Sounds like some have mused that it is sterile, perhaps a triploid. @Richard should be able to tell us soon. Until then, what’s everyone’s experience? @Lucky_P, arent some of your selections possible IE seedlings? Coral?