I’ve heard people reference Oikos Tree Crops having gone out of business but something must have changed. I have been to their website several times since joining the forum in 2022 and each time I do they appear to be still be here.
Oikos tree crop website is still up but they do not take orders from the general public anymore
I bought a number of things from OIKOS over the years - oaks, serviceberries, beach plums, pistachio, to name a few. To my knowledge everything Ken sold was a seedling of selected specimens.
The hybrid oaks, for instance, were a mixed bag of mongrels, due to the breeding population present on Ken’s place, but quite serviceable for my purposes.
I remember seeing his M.nigra offering in the catalog, but just figured it was a mischaracterization, like so many other nurseries that offer M.alba or hybrid selections bearing black fruits as M.nigra.
Let’s say I’m still skeptical that he was mass-producing true M.nigra seedlings at Kalamazoo.
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I just went ahead and ordered. If any root or graft, I guess we will see.
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We can share notes once they fruit 
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11 days in, Valdosta and Tice have green buds, but all of Jan’s best are still not breaking buds.
Hopefully soon, it may even be a good sign that they are rooting…
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I like to use a clear cup or bag for this reason to see if roots are growing
Has anyone ever comes across Reichert mulberry? Been trying to track that one down. The ortet tree was in Berks county PA near Huffs Church, but it’s gone.
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Does anyone grow Pakastani Mulberry (m. macroura) in the South? I tried to look up some info on it and I couldn’t really find any.
Do they grow good from cuttings and are they usually a high quality fruit?
@sharq
I know someone with a large ‘Pakistan’ outside Gainesville, FL they say makes tons of fruit. I’ve never tried it, but most people I know who’ve tried it & ‘Himalayan FSP’ say the latter has much better flavor & leaf’s out later (missing the occasional late frosts that sometimes zap ‘Pakistan’).
Both are difficult to root from cuttings AND are susceptible to nematodes - so you’ll probly want it grafted onto tolerant roots anyway.
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I would suggest taking it off
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I cut it off the first time I rooted but have never bothered to after. Did your Jan’s root out, yet?
Well, not so sure if they have rooted, but almost all (6/7) have green buds already which is good!
Thanks for asking. Do you think I can get away without removing the fruit?
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Only about a year but I have this. I have 3 cuttings rooting in the greenhouse if you want one when they root I’ll send you one.
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@pedroeastexas … I tried to root gerardi a few years back… one month on bottom heat with no light… second month on bottom heat with sunlight… it grew some nice shoots, leaves and fruit… looked like sure success…
But then the growth halted… it slowly shriveled and died.
I inspected each of the 4 cuttings and there was not one single root.
Mulberries can sure push some growth from the scionwood only.
Hope yours has roots.
Good Luck !
TNHunter
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Removing them gives the plant the best chance at survival.
They won’t be representative of normal berries from that variety anyway, they might even taste bad because they have so little energy to put into the fruits
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so I have a bunch of different varieties that I rooted from Jan on FigBid, and was researching where to plant them and how to prune them to keep them small and manageable, but I kept reading post after post of people saying not to plant them anywhere NEAR a house or road because the roots would crack the foundation or concrete. I guess that kind of rules out me ever planting them in-ground since I have a small back yard… hopefully I can just keep them in big containers and still get fruit from them!
I could be wrong here but I think it’s more about the staining from the fruit than the roots causing so much issues. I’m sure you shouldn’t plant them close to a foundation, but I think the main concern for people is the staining. Mine is near my driveway and I couldn’t care less about my driveway being stained. Don’t care too much about it cracking either, but we will see about that, it will be a few years I’d imagine before that becomes a threat.
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Yea you can cut them off. Hope they do have roots for you.
You are in luck because all my mulberries are in containers for a similar reason 
. They will all fruit but they fill up the containers quite quickly. I have gotten a decent crop from White Ivory in a 5g pot, but most of them are in 15g and really should be in 25g at this point. You will just need to root prune eventually.
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