Updated to Morris Burton which was missing. Sounds like U20A / Celebrity may need to replace c100. I know deer magnet is second to none for deer , but im not sure about how well people love deer magnet Deer Magnet Persimmon Collection (Late Drop) – Chestnut Hill Outdoors @zendog posted this link which was an eye opener for me
In my location, only if they like rock hard unripe fruit
The only selling point of it here is that it has never experienced any tip burn back from winter damaged.
I had a different take on C-100. I don’t know what the hype is or isn’t with it, but I thought it was good and a bit different than others I had during my trip to England’s. I wouldn’t classify it as a dud. Along with the typical persimmon taste, I got a pumpkin taste with it. My daughter said she tasted some caramel. It was fairly small though. I can’t remember if it was seedless or not.
How does everyone like wonderful?
I think you’ve mixed up a few Lehman selections as Claypool.
Morris Burton… is not impressive size wise… smallish… but excells at retaining good flavor when frozen for storage. That is what i learned from others here this year about MB.
Many americans do not retain flavor well or long enough when frozen. A few do.
My experience with wild DV here in TN… they loose flavor when cooked, frozen and even when dehydrated.
Dehydrated they retain a hard candy type nice sweetness… a little flavor… but much reduced from fresh fruit flavor.
Fresh fruit wise… persimmons and figs are top 2 for me. Hard to say which is best.
But dehydrated figs are 10x better than dehydrated presimmon pulp.
Early golden is excellent fresh. I like that it is early. I will need to get some that ripen up later and hang awhile.
I’m sure many people recognize this but Geneva Long is very different from Geneva Red.
The thread referenced earlier (mine) spoke about Geneva Red, supposedly a wonderful early persimmon. Geneva Long gets mixed reviews.
@clarkinks … there were several good reviews of H118 here this year.
H118 aka Prarie Star aka Early Jewell.
Early Jewel = H-118 – Very Early, Large size fruit, Red colored fruit, Soft when Ripe very High-quality Fruit Precocious and a consistent producer bears seedless fruit south of the Ohio River due to it being a 90 Chromosome persimmon.
That is what Cliff says about it.
I have scion coming from two different board members… hopefully by next summer I have it growing well here.
I have wild male DV here scattered about… if mine are 60C sounds like I might get seedless fruit. I hope that works out.
That is the only one of the Prarie series that plan to have.
Have heard these two are the best in the group of 4 of the prarie series. Glad i have both already.
Prarie Star h118 aka early jewell
Prarie Sun A33
I ran the list by Cliff. He has all of the current 30 except for:
Ruby
Meyers
Lehman 100-47
Claypool H91A
This is how im coming along on the list. If it has an x beside it i have it on order or have it growing.
Prarie Star h118 aka early jewell x
Prarie Sun A33 x
Prairie Dawn H-55A
Prairie Gem F-25
Elmo A118 x
100-47
Lehmans Delight 100-46 x
100-45
100-43
100-42
Dollywood D128 x
Szukis
Prok x
Barbaras Blush WS8-10 x
H 63A
H91A
Early Golden x
I-94 Valene Beauty x
C100 x
Geneva long x
Claypool H 120
Meader
Weber x
Morris Burton x
Ruby
Garretson x
Korp
Yates /juhl x
Meyers
Lena x
I’m interested in selecting a few varieties based primarily on taste (not sweetness) for my limited spots in my shady yard. Is taste the main quality you’re judging these varieties by or are bigger considerations size, hardiness, sweetness, etc? And can you describe what is special about H-63a?
@tulipifera … there have been a few post here over the last few years (since I joined) where various members made a trip to Englands Orchard in KY… and there they got to sample many varieties of persimmons.
Then… provide us with taste test results.
H63A is one of those varieties that many have placed at or near the top of the list… but many others are also in the running for very flavorful persimmons.
You might use the search tool and find some of those post and read opinions of others… I did that for quite a while before I decided on varieties to add here.
When I finish adding americans, hybrids, asians this spring… i should have…
Americans
H63A
WS8-10
H-118
Mohler
Rich Tooie
Prok
Then for hybrids…
JT02/Mikkusu
Kassandra
Nikita’s Gift
Dar Sofiyivky
Zima Khurma
Journey
Others
Coroa De Rio
Rojo Brillante
Asians
IKKJiro
Cardinal
I would caution you that I expext that most of the persimmon taste test reported here were likely from trees growing in full sun locations.
Will a persimmon grown in a shadey yard taste as good ?
I do have one wild tree that i collect from (roadside near our walmart)… and it is growing in a location that causes it to be shaded until around 2 pm each day… then it gets a few hours of hot evening sun.
I found it 3 years ago… and the first two years i harvested from it… the taste was good but not really outstanding or special. But this year… the first fruits i harvested noticed right off… a difference in the flavor… a very nice distinct rich vanilla flavor was included this year.
If that flavor continues next year… i will be collecting scion from it to get that growing here at my place.
Based on my experience with this little wild roadside tree… i woukd say it is possible to get some outstandingly good tasting persimmons with less than full sun. It may just take you longer to get there… or you may have to experiment more with different varietties to find the ones do manage high flavor in a shaded yard.
Good luck to you !
TNHunter
H-63a, Meader, Lehman’s Delight. All have that wonderful rum/burnt sugar thing going on. Morris Burton. Mohler.
I’ve had Meader. Tree split and fell during Isaias storm. The Meader persimmon tree sent roots and suckers all over the yard. They were still coming up continually even over 2 years after the trunk was removed. I don’t miss it…flavor was just okay.
My Nikita’s Gift tree just died last summer (2023). Was planted in 2011. Great rich flavor. And this tree also sent out lots of roots and suckers.
Do you know what rootstock was responsible?
The Meader persimmon was purchased from Jung Seed in 2006. And Nikita’s Gift purchased in 2011 from One Green World. No visible graft union seen on either tree, so I assume they are own root. Curious if anyone else has experienced this. I’m in Long Island NY zone 7a.
sounds like someone could use some scionwood!