If the pictures you just posted are from your Makaewa Jiro you posted about receiving from TyTy, I look forward to your tasting report when you bite into it while it is still firm and crunchy, which you should be able to do since that variety is non-astringent.
It should be quite a tasting experience.
Didn’t notice the pic when I read the post.
Indeed!!!
I’ll post this for any novices that happen by on a search for TyTy reviews.
My experience with them dates back as far as 1996. I was not exactly a gardening/orcharding novice at that time, but my first and only order with TyTy was an eye-opening experience.
It was a sizeable order, with several trees that I do not recall at this far-removed date, but there were three that I definitely recall - ‘Black Giant’ mulberry, which turned out to be nothing but a nondescript M.alba seedling producing very small mostly tasteless berries, two of the AU plums which were ungrafted/unbudded seedlings, received bareroot and fully leafed in mid-February here in southern KY… remarkably they survived, but were never very fruitful, so were removed some years later. Another AU plum and a couple other plants I’ve since forgotten were, essentially, dead dry brown sticks with no root system to speak of.
When I called TyTy, I was told that if I shipped the dead plants back (at my own expense) they would examine them to determine if there was something I did wrong, before they would consider issuing replacement plants(with additional shipping costs, of course). I considered this for… about a nanosecond… before I realized I’d been scammed.
Subsequently, I’ve had reports from others who experienced similar treatment, and opted for replacements, only to receive similar dead, rootless sticks or ungrafted seedlings, etc.
I’ve vowed to never, ever, order something from TyTy, and make every effort to warn others away from them.
The new owner made an account on here some time back saying he was going to change the business for the better. It appears he has just continued as it was. I knew he was full of crap when he just blew off all of our suggestions. We offered good advice and he was against every bit of it.
@Lucky_P
I believe that TyTy will continue to try to join this forum under various disguises.
This forum has grown a lot. When people look for fruit tree info on the internet, they are led to this forum.
Tyty sees that it could make money from new, inexperienced members so it will try again. Please help us weed out these “plants”.
Pretty sure you have confronted at least two of them. They are easy to spot. The only forum interactions they have is promoting TyTy. And they sound like salesman.
Reminds me of the fig expert. He disappeared quick after the forum confronted him. He was wild. Told everyone he was the expert on figs and everyone on the forum didn’t know half as much as him. Think he called himself TheFigKing or something like that.
Yes, just over the last week or two, more than half of my NG dropped.
There are still some on the tree, but it isn’t a heavy load.
I think we would take your assertions more seriously if you were someone we’ve interacted with for years such as Alan or Olpea, rather than someone who created the account and immediately posted a testimonial.
More likely so that search engines will see it. Though with the way this thread has gone, they may be editing the posts to de-emphasize it’s relevance to Google.
The fruit has remarkably high brix. I found a pic of one at 38 brix, but I think I’ve seen them in the 40’s. Of course, it is very difficult to remove the astringency. I’m not removing my tree, but if I had it to do over again, I probably wouldn’t bother with it. Given that I don’t really like astringent persimmons, growing the most impressive one isn’t a goal 
I’ve had plenty of persimmons produce younger than that. In fact, I had a Jiro tree in a 7 gal pot from JFaE produce 2 fruit in the first year I had it, while still in the pot (though it was a good sized tree). I’ve also had a bunch of trees produce in years 3-4., But NG seems to drop a lot of fruit. Even NG held onto fruit before year #7 though.
I graft a sucker in 2017 and I was getting ripe fruit by 2021- possibly earlier, but those are the first photos I found (see above).
Here’s another example of a young producer of a different variety. Rosseyanka was grafted onto a sucker in 2021, transplanted in spring 2022, with Tam Kam grafted after transplant (I had realized by that point that I didn’t want more astringent fruit…). First fruit was in 2024, with half a dozen fruit. So, it was 4 years from un-grafted sucker to fruit. This year it is carrying a good load of Tam Kam:
