Oblique Cordon Project

I thought that I would start a thread on the oblique cordon apple project I am starting this spring, so that others can learn from my successes and mistakes and also so that I can get any advice you all are willing to share. All feedback is appreciated.

We moved into a .5acre lot and away from our property and small orchard last June. With limited space and inspired by these videos from @applenut Old Southern Apples - YouTube, I decided to put in a row of oblique cordons along a N to S running fence along the back on the lot. The bed is 40ft long with a 3 wire trellis. I grafted 18 varieties listed below to Bud-9 stock in March. All are leafing out currently with Trailman and Chestnut looking a bit weak.





Arkansas Black

Centennial

Chestnut

Frostbite

King David

Liberty

Pipsqueak

Sweet Sixteen

Trailman

Williams Pride

Hudson’s golden gem

Wickson

Goldrush

Crimson crisp

Cherry cox

Kidd’s orange red

Wickson

Gold rush

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@ Philbert I had someone turn me on to this idea recently, and am really interested to hear how it’s gone for you so far?

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Very cool I look forward to seeing the progress. I have made cordons using currants. All are not finished yet. I started over on one. It takes patience so hang in there.

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Looks like a great setup.

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@Philbert
Very cool, I just posted some pics of my setup in Ross’s thread. Seems like we have a similar setup, I am interested to hear how the project progresses for you.

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Some interest in oblique Cordons in another thread got me jump started on updating with my progress. I thought that a report on growth of the various varieties all on Bud 9 may hold some value with the obvious caveat that there are tons of variables at play. Here are the varieties and total growth in year one:

Gold rush: almost to the 6 foot wire. This was the only plant that was not a directly planted bench graft. It was grafted in 2022 and lived in a pot for a year

Liberty: 4 ft

Cherry Cox: 3 ft

Jonafree: 4ft

Trailman: 1 ft

Williams pride: 2.5ft

Hudson’s Golden Gem: 2 ft

Pipsqueek: 3 ft

Arkansas Black: 3ft

Wickson: 3 ft

King David: 2.5ft

Frostbite: 1 ft

Kidd’s Orange Red: Graft initially seemed to take but ultimately failed. New bench graft of Ashmead’s kernal replaced it last week

Crimson Crisp: 2 ft

Sweet sixteen: 1 ft

Rubinette: 2.5 ft

Centennial Crab: 1 ft

Chestnut: Dog broke the graft. Refracted Chestnut to a shoot from last years root stock as of last week

@rossn @DaveW-wi5b

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As far as pruning in year one: I checked any lateral growth during the growing season back to a couple of buds with the goal of directing most of the vigor to the apical growth.

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Thanks for the update - lookin’ good!

I’ll be interested to see if at this time next year, the other varieties make it to the 6’ wire. My understanding is that Gold Rush tends to be a slow grower, due to its precocity, anyhow. I suppose it could just be the extra year of growth, but could also be that growing the first season vertically (instead of at 45 degrees) allowed for more vigor.

For the bench grafts that you planted directly, did you have any issues training the new growth to the sticks without stressing the graft itself? I know a lot of new growth will try to go straight vertical, so wasn’t sure how that panned out.

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Gold rush has grown like a beast in my neglected nursery bed. It hit 10 ft in its third year and managed to set a few fruit. Granted, this is in the best spot in that bed. The only variety to surpass it was blue pearmain.

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I think the deal with Goldrush is that it is so precocious and apt to overset, that it can easily be stunted. Don’t let it fruit and it’s growth pattern is pretty normal.

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Gold rush definitely grew well the first year in the pot and was a good sized whip when I planted it into the row…. Root ball was robust as well. It’s covered in spurs and I could see how if I let it make even a fraction of the fruit it might try to set that it could be set back.

As far training the bench grafts to the stakes, it was pretty straight forward. I already had the trellis and the oblique stakes in place when I put the trees in so I just planted them at a 45 degree angle and tied them to the stake at the time of planting. I actually dug the hole, tied them to the stake and then filled in the soil around the roots…. Worked great!

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