For yellow raspberries, I have heard reports that Raspberry ‘Kiwi Gold’ tastes better than Fall Gold, and Fall Gold tastes better than Anne. Is this true? If so, does anyone have ‘Kiwi Gold’ that they can share?
I have ‘Niwot’ black raspberry, but it is the first black i have tried. Last summer i tried to mechanically scarify seeds for Rubus leucodermis, which is said to be the species that “blue raspberry” flavor is based on. Im surprised that Rubus leucodermis is not used more widely in the black raspberry breeding lines (i think one line has it in it’s ancestry).
So far only one volunteer is primocane fruiting. Although I did cross Jewel and Ontario wild with Niwot and have one example of each. So I have at least three of them at the moment. Ironic as Niwot died on me. Doesn’t matter so far these offspring are superior anyway. I want to try and make a yellowcap primocane fruiting. I did crosses last year, but it didn’t take. I’ll try again this year.
Seeds may or may not have the trait? I can say the trait appears dominate as 1st gen plants had the trait and only one parent could pass it. So chances are 50% the seedling will have the trait.
Loganberry is by far my top producer… we are still pulling frozen pints from the freezer to eat this winter and spring. Then herritage… the blacks are my fav for taste… I should get a lot more blacks this year… I have OTB and a mystery black that I propigated several last year.
I am talking to a guy in california about Phenomenal Berry… its a Luther Burbank creation… but hard to find. Its very very similar to the Loganberry…
“The new fruit was not altogether unlike the Loganberry, which was an accidental hybrid discovered by Judge J. H. Logan on his place near Santa Cruz, which was believed to be a hybrid between the red raspberry and the California dewberry. But the Phenomenal is far superior in size, quality, color, and productivity, and it is gradually displacing the Loganberry.”
@krismoriah … logans are quite tart… very flavorful… tast more like a raspberry than blackberry. They do get sweeter if you let them hang until they turn that deeper purple color and start to look like they are just about to go bad.
VERY good then.
But even if picked a little earlier when still quite tart the flavor is off the charts. Eat them with other sweeter berries… strawberries grapes blueberries and wow good.
Or make jam or French toast topping out of logans and Maple syrup… so good.
On the subject of raspberries… below is a pic I took today.
In the middle my little Moorpark apricot… on each side… a V trellis setup with red and black raspberries filling the gap between the apricot and jujubes on the left… and apples on the right.
All those raspberries were propigated last year from root shoots.
Filling in the food forest bed.
If you zoom in on that Lil apricot you can see a big red raspberry cane that grew up in with the apricot.
End of May and thru June raspberries are ripe here… can’t wait.
Ooh, great thread. I’m looking to plant a few raspberry canes. I need something very thorny, otherwise the squirrels climb the canes and eat the fruit. (And break the canes.) Lots of annoying little spines would probably be ideal. It’s really hard to shop for that, as “thornless” is a lot more popular.
I get raspberry borer, and have yellow rust on the wild brambles. I don’t think i have root rot, though.
So, any strong-flavored, tart, red raspberries that would be suitable for me? Preferably ever-bearing (primocanes). Eastern MA, zone 6, i plan to irrigate.
May not be what you’re looking for, but… Wild/invasive wineberry checks a lot of those boxes. One of the most intense flavored berries I’ve ever eaten. Canes are basically 100% covered in small to large spines, floricane bearing only though. Superb for fresh eating…
@Ginda … Heritage reds… everbearing, more tart and raspberry flavored than sweet… but get sweeter and quite good if you wait for later stage ripeness (darker purplish)…
Very prolific… sends up root shoots like crazy. I bought 3 a few years ago… have 30+ now.
Here in TN on primos they ripen Sept - Nov.
On floros. May 25 - June 30.
The fall crop just sort of trickles in… the spring crop is very abundant for a little over a month.
Caroline is improved Heritage. Nothing wrong with Heritage but Caroline does everything it does a little better. Bigger berries, and produces more. Also better at drought and disease resistance. Very vigorous and nasty thorns. Gives you plenty of babies as well…so only buy a couple or few plants…she will give you more.
Have you had ripe caroline already? I look to have a summer crop, but they are just sizing up now. I usually never have one this early–always a fall crop. Great berries except for swd.
@warmwxrules … sorry but the only red raspberry I have is Heritage.
I considered Caroline… but it sounds like they might ripen in july/August for me… which would not be ideal SWD wise.
I do have loganberry… but it ripens early like my heritage reds do… end of May and thru June…
I may try Joan J at some point.
Black raspberries are my fav… so I may experiment more with varieties on them. I have Ohio treasure black now and they are good. Produced a nice early crop here in June. I have not seen the fall crop yet… but should this fall.
