I was almost getting used to all the sun and the frosty mornings, but this looks like what we actually need to get our reservoirs back on the right track:
That reminded me to walk around the corner to check on a neighbor’s tree that I was given permission to sample. I thought it might be Nikita’s Gift based on fruit shape and size, but the renter living there said the owner just bought it from a local nursery and had no recollection what the variety was. They aren’t that ripe yet, though, so I’m guessing it’s something else. It looks like it partially defoliated after two nights of frost, low of 30°F:
I don’t know much about persimmon flowering, but that would explain why the one I found in the alleyway behind their house a couple years ago, carried off by a squirrel (or maybe crow?) then abandoned, was full of seeds, even though I’m pretty sure this is the only persimmon in our neighborhood. I posted photos here:
Hi all , I am based in Portland. I am just getting started with persimmons, pawpaws, figs, honeyberries, gooseberries, and (thornless!) blackberries. I’m frequently taking trips to whichever fruit orchard has something tasty in season. Berry season in the PNW is hands-down the best experience. I also have some trees in SW Florida (Jackfruit, Atemoya, Mangos, Avocado, Starfruit, Guava, Lychee, Passionfruit, Dragonfruit, Papaya).
Nice! Welcome to the forum. Always happy to see more members here with similar south FL ties. Any plans for a greenhouse, or will you stick to zone appropriate trees in Portland?
Based on what @PharmerDrewee recently described about pollinated persimmon, the fruit on the tree appear like they got good pollination.
Also, if they let you pick a few fruit, even at this stage they’ll ripen on the counter and be very tasty.
Here’s a fruit that I picked as an experiment in September (barely had orange tone) and let sit on the counter for about a month. It was sweeter than fruit we bought at Costco.
Maybe I’ll go ahead and pick one then. The person renting the house says she doesn’t eat them and the owner doesn’t pick them, so I could take all I wanted, but I was waiting until at least one seemed more fully colored up to pick. But I really don’t have any experience with picking kaki, I’ve picked hundreds of wild virginiana in the Mid-Atlantic, and those usually needed to get pretty soft before they’ll have any hope of losing their astringency on the counter.
i think it is a maru persimmon has some male flowers astringent type. have to be soft on the tree to taste sweet. Do you have any extra samples i can confirm with taste test. lol.
Evergreen Huckleberry. You’ve got lots of them in southern Oregon especially along the coast. Chad Finn says they’re sweeter and less sour than the huckleberries in the mountains Comparing v ovatum and v membracium but people don’t pick them as avidly because they’re much smaller
I have an Evergreen Huckleberry I got from Raintree about 12 years ago. It’s about 4’x4’, having been hacked back to fit under blueberry net.
It’s been pest free and each year is loaded with berries. The berries on mine, however, lack any particular flavor! At the end of the season they are not tart. I wonder if the wild ones taste better?
Raintree’s description: The best fruiting plant for your shade garden! A native of Pacific Northwest lowland forests, this evergreen bush is beautiful throughout the year. In the spring and the fall the young foliage turns from green to a striking bronze color. The late summer-ripening berries are a dark blue; tart and flavorful, half the size of a blueberry. The shrub grows best in the shade where it can reach 6-8 feet without pruning. In the sun it only grows to 3 feet tall. It has a dense growth habit and spaced about 3 feet apart makes a beautiful evergreen hedge.
If that bush isn’t very sweet or tart they might taste good cooked into a sauce with sugar added. They look normal colored so they should still have the flavor of all the phenolic compounds that I think tastes good
Root Knot Nematode infected plants sold from nurseries is that common? I heard RKN was common in FL, but how about other states? But is it spread from the potting soil itself or the in ground soil?
I wonder if the variety you found was the v. membranaceum, a variety that is not often offered in nurseries.
The berries you pictured seem larger than those from my v. ovatum.
Portland Nursery has good descriptions of both.
Hi Johann
What advantage does a Clark rootstock offer?
I have grafted a few crabs on my mature trees for improving pollination, the small fruits do not seem worth using, so do you intend to graft larger varieties to your Clark rootstocks?
Dennis