Anyone have thoughts on the how good Nyomi’s Delicious is, in terms of flavor? Trying to decide whether I should keep my tree as is, or potentially top work or cocktail it with Wabash.
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When I was last at Buzz’s place in 2022 he wasn’t really growing out fruit. I know he said there was a Sunflower patch nearby and I think he got his seedlings for grafting from that. But all of his varieties sold at the nursery are grown for propagation/grafting purposes. So for vegetative purposes, yeah, they all grow well in z5.
Not all z5b’s (or any zone) are the same though. The length of growing season and GDDs are more important than the actual growing zone. Once the trees fully harden off, they can handle some pretty cold temps. Those native trees in S IA obviously were able to handle the big cold in early Feb of 1996 up in the northern Plains. If you get cool summers or live in a lower elevation that’s more frost prone you will have more difficulty getting growth and ripe fruit.
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Add Jerry’s Big Girl, Kentucky Legend, and Regulus to your consideration list.
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I’ve heard it is very good tasting but somewhat seedy like many wild selections. It’s always an option to multi-graft later on!
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Preston, those do not resemble any Sunflower I have ever seen. Fruit shape with nipple–nope. Sunflower no nipple and more elongated. Leaves–way too broad for Sunflower. Looks more like Benson, although I’ve never seen leaves that broad–almost like a magnolia.
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Does anyone know if Pawpaw germination or growth are affected by black walnut goo?
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@marc5 Ive confirmed this one but i see what you mean. I got the scion from KSU. I’ll add a photo from last year. As for the nipples im not too sure.
Also the leaves in the last photo i shared was a different tree but even the first photo i shared the leaf looks too wide and too light green.
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Legend had been on my list, and Halvin was added to it by your post. Thanks for always expanding it!
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Had a fun and surprising pawpaw fanatic experience yesterday. Was driving from Philly to Boston and learned via r/pawpaws that robsons’s farm had u-pick. Unfortunately they were closed yesterday, but I emailed and the owner put some extra pawpaws in a paper bag for me and hid them on site so I could pick them up. she said they had mostly peterson cultivars but was just giving me what had been picked.
but when I got home and grabbed out one —green with brown splotches, giving to the touch like a ripe avocado — it was white inside, with a completely different texture and flavor than the one I tried from [foraged.com]that was more yellow and intense. it was spoon scoopable, but barely; had to use a knife to get some of the pulp closer to the rind; the flavor was mild and sweet vanilla/marshmallow, with no aftertaste. plus, it seemed like the seeds had barely any sack if any, and only about 5 seeds.
by comparison the foraged.com one, which seemed similarly ripe by color and feel, was egg yolk yellow, very soft, and had an intense flavor ( I couldn’t take more than a few spoonfuls of it) like melon with artificial banana and a bit of an alcohol-ey aftertaste, and about 12 seeds.
did I just get an underripe one from robsons? Or a freestone / white flesh cultivar? This is only my second pawpaw. i could try to get some picture screencaps out of the videos i took.
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I know for a fact that they are not. Have tons of black walnut goo from a 100 yo tree and pawpaws happily growing including numerous 1 yr and 2 yr seedlings
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Pawpaws are part of the ‘walnut guild’, i. e. tolerant to juglone toxicity.
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Maybe you ended up with a Shenandoah? The mild types like that are currently my favorite.
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Pawpaws and walnuts get along OK.
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It could be — I know they grow Shenandoah. Maybe it was a slightly under-ripe Shenandoah?
edit: found a youtube video of a shenandoah and yeah, it looked a lot like that! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loS0mM2m0o4
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Preston, that’s very interesting. That one in your hand looks much more like a Sunflower. Any possibility that you have more than one graft on the tree–or maybe the graft is controlling one side of the tree–the other side is root stock? I’ve seen that happen. In any case, your fruit looks very good and void of any fungus.
And to your seeds, many of my seeds that small on not viable. I also did an experiment on large vs. small seed germination. The large seeds definitely germinated faster but the others eventually caught up.
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@marc5 The Sunflower does have a graft of IXL and Brushy Mountain on it. BM is that giant tree that was posted on here a while back.
The second trunk i believe is a seedling and not a sucker from the Sunflower and that one is mainly Taytwo but has several other varieties on it.
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Dumb question: I get that seeds need cold stratification in a fridge. But why not bury them in the ground in a cold area naturally? Is it just much lower level of germination?
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It’s fine to plant the seeds,in the ground,but it may take longer for germination,especially compared to using bottom heat,under some potted ones.
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Planting directly into the grounds invites all sorts of issues: critters, weeds, less than optimal moisture and nutrients–all variables you can control in containers. In the time I get a 1’ tree that started in the ground I can have a fruiting tree that started in a container.
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