Pawpaws in 2025!

Part of the issue I think is that I did not follow this guideline:

I thought that because I was planting in heavy clay, I should amend, but instead, it has indeed just created a fishbowl, and while the pawpaws on a slope have survived, the others just became sunk in mud (and maybe frozen in mud too). Learned my lesson…

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He has to graft them later due to his location…I’d still give them more time. I have a few I did in June last year in the field that are barely showing bud emergence. It was kind of a strange winter for a lot of my trees. Is there any green on them if you give one a little scratch?

As for the holes, I usually mix 50/50 what I use in the pots and what I removed to give them some transition. I don’t make large holes like some recommend because we are prone to heavy rainstorms. I had almost 3” yesterday. I’ve had apple trees I’ve planted wash out before so I like having more stability around the new plantings now. I used to have some issues with nurseries that used smaller, shallower pots, but the 14” ones have better survivability for me. I think having the roots below the lawn root line to start with helps. My soil is wet and heavy as well and my trees have done well. Sometimes they just take a couple of years to get their footing…especially in our growing zone.

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Thanks for the pep talk. I am fine with leaving mine in the ground for a bit longer; no harm to see if they bounce back. But the two stragglers are sitting in 2” of pooled water, so I figure that’s not a great sign…

Are they always submerged? It’s been a wet month and yesterday was pretty bad for the western half of the state. I have puddles and a stream running through the grove right now. The heat this week can’t come soon enough.

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Not sure - my first time up here in a bit, so could just be from the heavy rain yesterday.

Any news on Hi 1-4?

Release date? Name? Sources?

I think Blake said “Dank” earlier in the thread.

I could be wrong, but I got the impression he was being facetious.

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Indeed.

I have registered and made plans to camp and explore Daniel Boone National Forest and elsewhere before attending the 5th Annual International Pawpaw Conference on my way out of the great Blue Grass State of Kentucky.

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Yeah my sarcasm meter was triggered on that one, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt anyway.

In my teens ‘DANK’ meant extremely good, lol. That may have been lost in translation. That was also looong ago

KSU is planning on releasing KSU 1-4 and KSU 7-1 at the International Pawpaw Conference which is happening September 11th at KSU.

I was asked to give a presentation at the event, and so am happy about that.

I have been grafting many KSU 1-4 and 7-1’s this season. A giant old oak tree fell down in a recent tornado and smashed both my KSU 1-4 and KSU 7-1. I think the KSU 1-4 survived.

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Daniel Boone NP is awesome. Lots of groves of rhododendrons, big leaf magnolias, laurels, wateralls, etc.

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Hi, I use KELP-IT brand. I buy this resin-like extract and put in a thumb-sized chunk into a 5 gallon bucket of water to dilute. I use this for foliar and root applications at all stages. It’s not the easiest product to source for some reason. Maxi-crop and others are fine. I prefer the resin because then I’m not paying for water in a pre-mixed product. I purchased a 10 pound or so block years ago and still am working through it.

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And so for the record, so there is no confusion regarding syntax and 90s slang, KSU 1-4 is FABULOUS. Better than 95% of the pawpaws out there. It might be KSU’s best so far, I’d want to try it side by side with the others. It is likely more firm than Atwood and Chappell, less tropical fruity than Chappell less intense than Benson, with an excellent but less firm Suquehanna -esque texture and great flavor. Very low seed weight.

Another excellent Sunflower x Susquehanna hybrid with the best of both.

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Here’s a question for the group that I have pondered: Why does practically nobody ever talk about KSU Benson?

I have noted a few things about it that may contribute to that. First, in my experience KSU Benson is slow to establish and grow, similar to Susquehanna.

Second, KSU barely has any availability of scions.

For some reason that one seems overlooked and maybe underated. It’s an amazing variety actually.

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Nah. I’m down with the lingo. Dank is how I like my memes.

I just literally thought maybe there was some KSU donor out there that may have had the last name “Dank”. :smile:

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Good question. For some reason I think I always had it as late season in the back of my head, but now that I’m viewing your site, and others, I see it’s more early to mid. I’ll probably graft it next year unless you have an extra dormant stick lying around.

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I found one with that name, it’s in sachets.
But there’s a formula without nitrogen and phosphorus. Only potassium. 0-0-14

Is this the same fertilizer you use? And how often do you use it?

Enough people talk about Benson that it’s one of the 5 I bought to grow. From my notes it’s a fruity type- make more people prefer the Shenandoah type of flavor?