I should wind up with about 70 trees here at the house in Tennessee. I have no idea how many I’ll wind up with on the property in Hamilton, AL.
I’m not planning on spraying here but may do some at Hamilton.
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I could not imagine having 70 trees without a lot of specialized equipment. Then there is the issue of transportation between the two locations if needed.
If you were ordering in-shell pecans in the 5 pound bags from Amazon and wanted them to be fresh when would you place your order? $35.00 a bag, high price but I guess that what they are bringing these days.
Harvest is usually from late September until the end of November. If you order before the first of October, you will get last year’s pecans. Personally, I prefer to drive down to Montgomery Alabama and buy pre-cracked pecans at C. M. Wood Pecan.
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Would Elliot be your preferred commercial pecan for taste?
Elliott is medium, decent, and one I will readily crack and eat. I purchased about 400 pounds of Elliott 4 years ago from a friend of Mike Cartwright for 75 cents/pound. I found a guy with a cracker and had them all pre-cracked for easy shelling. I sold a couple of hundred pounds to family and friends but still wound up with about 20 gallon ziploc bags of pecans in the freezer (4 pounds per gallon, or about 80 pounds of shelled pecans).
Farley is arguably a bit better than most although very difficult to find. If I can get Farley, it is my first choice. Farley - Cultivars | Pecan Breeding
For easily found and purchased varieties, Schley and Forkert are hard to beat. Both have high oil content and good pecan flavor. When toasted, the “malting” makes them sweeter and enhances the flavor.
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I noticed that on the UGA website that Elliott has a comparatively high rate of alternate bearing. Kanza is also high. Do growers consider this in their pricing?
Kanza is only grown in regions north of Atlanta with very few commercial orchards. Bill Reid is the only grower I know of who has significant production.
Elliott is an alternate bearer, but tends to make a crop even in the off year. It makes up for the variation by bringing a premium price. However, Elliott has had problems over the last 10 years with defoliation due to a fungal disease complex. This has been particularly bad in Louisiana. Elliott can be grown up to Montgomery AL with few issues but likely won’t make a reliable crop further north. It breaks buds too early which means frost kills the crop.
From what I have seen, the price for pecans depends entirely on the market. As I said earlier, I purchased 400 pounds of Elliott for 75 cents a pound 4 years ago. I can often find good quality pecans for $2.50 to $3.50 in-shell. But if I want Forkert or Schley, the price starts at $6 per pound. Whatever else I can say about them, they definitely bring a premium price.
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I’ve seen Kanza sold by several vendors in Oklahoma. Pawnee is frequently sold there too, which I prefer, guess it has a higher oil content?
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Hi Bob, how are you?
I see that Oklahoma also has a major stick bug problem… They have devastated my pecans in the past… The pecans either have those little dark spots on the kernels or they are completely rotten. Won’t know that the pecans has been damaged with the spot until the nut has been opened. I know that the rotten pecans which occurred during the water stage may or may not be due to the stick bugs.
Don’t really want to spray for them. Been looking at DIY traps. Doesn’t help that my lawn mower is broken down.
https://extension.okstate.edu/e-pest-alerts/2022/stink-bug-and-leaffooted-bug-in-pecan.html
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Hallo Bob, wie geht es dir?
Ich sehe, dass Oklahoma auch ein großes Problem mit Stabwanzen hat… Sie haben meine Pekannüsse in der Vergangenheit verwüstet… Die Pekannüsse haben entweder diese kleinen dunklen Flecken auf den Kernen oder sie sind völlig verfault. Werden nicht wissen, dass die Pekannüsse mit dem Fleck beschädigt wurden, bis die Nuss geöffnet wurde. Ich weiß, dass die faulen Pekannüsse, die während der Wasserphase auftraten, auf die Stabwanzen zurückzuführen sein können oder auch nicht.
Hello Comraden,
Today I want to show you few of my pecans.
Also nuts of the sorts " James Early " and " Mandan "
I hope the nuts will ripen here
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Your trees have a very upright appearance but are still young. Are you getting many pecans?
My oldest trees are about 20 years old.
Unfortunately, I haven’t yet found a particularly good variety that consistently produces nuts.
My current trees do produce nuts, but only in very small quantities. However, I’m not giving up hope of finding a suitable selection for our climate.
I was in contact with “Barkslip” for several years. Unfortunately, his illness worsened, and he gave up his work with the trees.
He repeatedly sourced and sent me scions.
Of course, I paid for everything.
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What varieties do you currently have growing? Here is a list that should be viable for your location.
Campbell NC4, Deerstand, Earlton, Iowa, Lucas, Meat (OC-6), Seneca, Snaps, Warren 346
Of this list, I have Seneca, Lucas, and Warren 346
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My largers trees are
Shepherd, Colby, Mandan, Kanza, James Early, Canton, Lucas, Warren346,
Abbott Hican, a Seedlingtree with fruit.
Smaller trees are
Lakota, Hardy Giant, Norton, Hadu 3, Campell HC4,
From Bill; KT 316 (Liberty) which have two nuts this year
KT 337 and KT 234
And some other selections
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Hallo Peter,
Looks like you’ve had better luck than me growing pecans. I planted 8 bare root trees nine years ago, but unfortunately they all died within a couple years.
Pecans will take time to produce but you would think yours would be producing after a few years. Maybe there’s a pollination issue, that is, maybe the trees aren’t producing and receiving pollen at the right times?
BTW, ich habe nach Deutschland, Österreich und Schweiz im 2003 gereist. Es war wunderbär.
Your list is:
Abbott Hican, Campell NC4, Canton, Colby, Earlton, Hadu 3, James Early, Kanza, Lakota, Liberty, Lucas, Mandan, Norton, Seedlingtree, Shepherd, Starking Hardy Giant, and Warren 346
Campbell HC4 probably should be Campbell NC4.
I don’t see a reference to KT234 on Bill’s site. Is it perhaps KT334 which is Labette?
From your list, Mandan and Lakota are least likely to mature nuts. 5 or 6 more are likely to freeze out most years. Campbell NC4, Earlton, Lucas, and Warren 346 are most likely to be successful making and maturing a crop most years. Meat (OC-6) and Seneca should be on your radar to find scionwood. Seneca has been very difficult to locate. I finally got scions a few months ago from Womack Nursery in Texas. I only had 1 accepted graft and it is still a small tree.
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At least your trees do not have webworms while my trees have plenty. Do you not have webworms in Germany? If its any consolation to you, I don’t get much production out of my trees either.
I noticed this morning that the squirrels are starting to hit my trees so I wrapped aluminum roll flashing around the trunks and pruned out some low limbs. Sometimes they seem impossible to keep out of the trees.
Probably still got plenty leaf disease and scab although I did fertilize last winter. Don’t know the numbers but the bag did say for pecans.
Don’t have much hope for my trees but will be looking to purchase.
@Fusion_power - Do you know of anyone in North Mississippi (preferably northwest MS) that sells pecans?
I don’t know of anyone selling pecans, however, if you look on facebook and craigslist in about 3 weeks there will be a lot of pecans for sale from people with yard trees.
If you are looking for pecan trees, we can have a different discussion. Rockbridge would be a good place to start.
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