That sounds more like what I’d expect. I found them at one of the local supermarkets. It’s the only place I can reliably get persimmons in town, but they charge “exotic fruit” prices for them.
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One of these days I’ll make a trip!
I’ve seen at least 2 “Sharoni.” There was a large one labeled as Early Sharoni from Spain I saw in November. I’ve also seen a particularly small Sharoni from Israel maybe around the Lunar New Year. It was almost conical shaped. Maybe they are just smaller being grown in an arid climate.
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The early ripening time makes it sound like it. My Prok seem to be a bit variable in shape.
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“Early Sharoni” is bad, don’t waste your money. The one I like is the Sharoni from Spain, which is usually available in stores around mid November through January. The one from Israel is called “Sharon” without the “i” at the end, and I have not tried it. It is also significantly smaller than Spanish Sharoni.
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Thanks, Ahmad, for sharing your experiences. I’ll make sure to look for those later Sharoni from Spain. I like the later Rojo Brillante from there that are particularly red. Those are excellent. I noticed some from California labeled as Hachiya last year. They were huge, but not very sweet at all.
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I have these two. If one of them is Prok (the flatter, more square shape one), I’d like to find out, what the variety of a pine cone shape is.
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This one looked like Prok. The pumpkin looked like one is Yates.
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I’m not so sure about that. Seems early (mine are all still fully green) and my proks aren’t that flat. Timing and shape make me think H-118 is a possibility, but it’s also not uncommon for a few persimmons to start ripening earlier than the rest of the tree.
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Thanks, @tonyOmahaz5 and @SMC_zone6 .
Look like the cone/heart shape one is a Prok.
Flat/pumpkin one is not sure yet. I recalled grafting a bunch of hybrids including H118, but most, if not all, suffered delayed grafting incompatibility and died. This one has survived. The oranhe fruit in the pic ripened earlier than the rest and dropped. The rest are still greenish and have not ripened yet.
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I am thinking about planted a persimmon in 2023. So far we only have apples, peaches, cherries and pears. What variety of persimmon is best? We are in zone 7 (Maryland). This is an open question for everyone.
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Scott lived in Maryland. He maybe be able to help choose what varieties works best for you. @scottfsmith .
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Most persimmons do well in Maryland, just avoid the few that ripen super late. None of the common ones I know of are in that category. Hyakume is the only persimmon I could not always fully ripen. In terms of varieties you can just pick what you like. My favorites are Chocolate and Hachiya, also Jiro is a good non-astringent.
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I’ll copy Bill and ask if there are recommendations for persimmons in PNW zone 8, Vancouver Island?
Last winter I put in a Campbell and it has not been very happy: its only put out one set of quite small leaves. Mulberries and nut trees from the same nursery planted at the same time have all done well so any thoughts are welcome!
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I would think you should be able to grow Americans, hybrids, or Kakis. @murky will tell you for sure.
Yeah, I have all three. But I get more heat than the folks up in the Olympic Peninsula area which is probably more like Vancouver Island. I’m just Northeast of Portland Oregon.
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That’s what I wondered, Murky. I would suggest hybrids or kaki’s to @GregBramblewood then.
Or @murky do I have it backwards?
I know San Diego type of climate cannot get American to sleep well and they then cannot get them to full fruiting. (chill hours). I likely have it backwards @GregBramblewood. You should look at H-118 and Prok for American cultivars if yes.
Barkslip, that seems reasonable to me. If I can do all three I’ll try for sure, why not! I’ll check out those two american ones, thanks!
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H118 and probably some type of Jiro are the one’s that have fruited for me so far.
Nikita’s Gift is a highly regarded hybrid.
Saijo for astringent kaki.
Izu and Cardinal have both been described as the earliest non-astringent kaki’s of good quality.
Coffeecake is supposed to be real early, a PCNA kaki that needs to be pollenated to be non-astringent and have dark flesh.
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Murky,
Could you please post pics of your H 118?
Since @SMC_zone6 has said my unknown could be H 118, I would love to see what the real thing looks like. Thanks in advance.
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