Persimmons 2022

Saijo will likely not ripen properly in Vancouver Island. It needs more heat…
Izu might make it but unlikely it will be sufficiently sweet. Jiro will be very difficult to ripen there.

H-118 and Nikita’s gift are good bets. Nikita’s gift once ripened here in August because of a bird peck. It was still very good

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This was originally supposed to be Saijo, but wasn’t even a kaki. Jim Gilbert gave me scion and I grafted to H118 (though they call it something different). The union is maybe 3 feet off the ground, you can see the kink.

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My I-94 tree has been dropping ripe fruit for a week now her in central Indiana. Deer have been beating me to a lot of them.

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I believe it was also known as Early Jewel and was called Prairie Star by One Green World and circulates under that name as well. I’m pretty sure OGW trademarked it as Prairie Star, but it was originally one of Claypool’s selections so it should be able to be shared freely. I have a little one growing so hopefully I’ll get to try it in a few years.

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Yes, but maybe Northwoods calls it Prairie Star too.

I chose it because One Green World brought fruit to the Home Orchard Society All About Fruit Show years back. I loved it, and asked him which cultivar. He said it would have been Prairie Star or Prairie Sun and brought me scions of both.

H118 did better, the other languished. Maybe it was a bad rootstock. I’ve finally grafted the other over to California Maru. We’ll see if it fares any better on that stock in that location.

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Murky
Thanks for the pics but they are bit far.
Any close-up pics of H-118?

On my monitor the fruit in the second picture is larger than life size. You want a close up of the fruit? It isn’t ripe yet.

My Prok, which is now 10 feet tall, set over 100 pieces of fruit in the spring when it was 8 feet tall, then dropped every single one in June.


My Lehman’s delight, which is about 2.5 feet tall set 3 fruit and is still holding on to 2. Persimmons are silly.


Of course I should have removed these, but when the Prok (and others) dropped all their fruit I wanted at least something to taste this year.

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Yes, love to see close up pics of H 118.

My unknown have not ripened yet, either. They look like this.


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Thanks, Murky. Do you think yours and mine look alike?

It’s hard to say. I suspect yours are better watered.

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Yes, it is a potted tree so it gets watered daily.

Wow! Your Prok really bounced back after the cicadas whacked it last year. Is Lehman’s Delight AKA 100-46? That one seems to want to fruit more than it wants to grow.

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@mamuang look pretty close.

you guys should compare adaxial and abaxial leaf sides…

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Yes, my Prok did great and is growing like a fiend. I saw your post about how astringents might be helping keep squirrls from stealing all your non-astringents and it made me think that maybe I’d graft a non-astringent on the top of the Prok. Maybe it will slow down its growth since it looks like it could be a 20 foot tall tree in no time.

And yup, Lehman’s Delight is 100-46. It definitely wants to fruit early and often. I hope they’ll be tasty.

I had a couple fruit on Inchon, KSBS, chocolate and Giboshi, but all of those are gone which I expected since they are young. Prok dropping everything was definitely a dissapointment since it seems big enough to carry fruit. Next year I’m sure it will do well.

Your trees are looking fabulous.

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Izu and Cardinal are they different in flavor? Or similar?

I’ve never had Cardinal. My super tiny tree from One Green World did not survive its first season.

I’m hoping to get scion of Jo Choo or Jochu or Soshu or whatever the cultivar name is, this winter.

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My first ever American persimmon, H-63a.
There were some larger fruits, though still small, but all the others seem to have been snatched by critters.
Candy like sweetness and texture almost sugary, that melting grittiness. Interesting first fruity flavor. Very interesting. Can’t wait for a larger harvest next year :crossed_fingers:t2:



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2nd best-tasting the day I visited Jerry Lehman along with a friend. first was/is Morris Burton. there were five of us to start the tour. 3 of us made it (imagine swollen bellies) to H-63A (my buddy was off wandering and eating everything and anything, then he’d show back up from time to time; and when the three of us tried H-63A, everyone stopped and looked toward each other and said at the ‘same time’, this is the best. We were halfway thru or so then. About 60% thru persimmons and hadn’t even gotten to pawpaws;

as we wandered out there was a Chee which we ate and kept-walking (that’s how ‘great’ that was) and then there standing in the shade of the late-afternoon is this persimmon so loaded with fruit that the leaves were “half the plant”. The tree looked like it was orange there standing within - the shade.

we were all “sick” at that point. We had even had lunch during this process of eating ‘I don’t know how many’ /much “stuff” but there was ‘Morris Burton’ american persimmon; That took the cake. The last tree, in that orchard, there was the-winner.

Then I ate ‘Lena’ at Red Fern Farm and my taste buds went right back to that Morris Burton moment. It’s exactly as good.

Hope this helps, everyone.

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