Persimmons 2022

parkwaydrive · November 27, 2022, 10:11pm

Hmm, my Ruby is an oblate fruit. Yours looks more oblong. I have the one from Edible Landscaping. Just wondering where you sourced yours?

PharmerDrewee · November 28, 2022, 2:25am

It colors up and is edible a couple weeks before Jiro and Tam Kam for me but I didn’t pick mine until the middle of November at which time the seeds were dark and mature.

Jin Yong seems like a good variety here.

Barkslip · November 28, 2022, 3:21am

Miss Kim is beyond delicious. I would highly recommend it. I’ve eaten 3 of them now. They’re absolutely scrumptious and perfectly balance. Let them get soft where a few places an inch across are beginning to melt inward on itself. And remove the stem and eat the whole thing skin and all. It’s delicious.

jrd51 · November 29, 2022, 1:40pm

<< Miss Kim is beyond delicious. >>

Good to know. I have Miss Kim grafted to a branch on my Prok tree. I’m hoping for fruit next year. My stand-alone graft failed so I plan to try again next spring.

What’s the ripening schedule there? Did you leave them on the tree until now or did you pick them and ripen them indoors.

md_noob · November 30, 2022, 9:47pm

Apologies if this is a terrible question. I have three small (4-5’) persimmon trees in containers that I brought indoors for the winter. They have all recently dropped their leaves. Do they still need light, despite not having any leaves? I have a grow light in place, but it’s fairly weak and I’m wondering if I should supplement it. Thanks!

JCW · November 30, 2022, 10:24pm

I don’t believe they need supplemental lighting. I know a small nursery that stores theirs in a sea van for the winter. I don’t think there is any lighting in it.

Just make sure they don’t dry completely out or get warm enough to start growing prematurely.

Dom · November 30, 2022, 10:25pm

Hi there,
No, they won’t need any supplemental light. You will need to keep them lightly moist though-out the winter.

Hillbillyhort · November 30, 2022, 10:40pm

No light needed if No leafs .
But , I would think they need some time at cool temperatures ~40F to meet their winter chill requirements. Most temperate trees do. Not sure really , with persimmons.? They may survive the winter , but fail to leaf out come spring ?
That would be my concern. What type of persimmons ?

Buckeye · November 30, 2022, 11:12pm

What variety, what zone are you in? I keep mine protected outside in zone 6a but they are a slightly tougher kaki (tam kam).

md_noob · November 30, 2022, 11:29pm

7A (Maryland). I’ve got Saijo, IKKJ, and Tam Kam. I didn’t realize persimmon trees had chill requirements. I’ll have to keep that in mind. I’m trying to be careful because last year I potted a bareroot Chocolate persimmon and kept it in a dark room all Winter and it died quickly.

Hillbillyhort · November 30, 2022, 11:44pm

@md_noob
A quick search says kaki needs less than 100 hrs to meet chill requirements. That’s not much , but still necessary.

disc4tw · December 1, 2022, 3:28am

Is it possible you had the potting mix too wet and the roots rotted? My biggest challenge indoors has been fungus gnats.

jrd51 · December 1, 2022, 1:02pm

md_noob –

FYI, for the past few years I’ve been buying a few DV rootstock trees each year, growing them in pots for 1 year, then grafting scions from American, Asian, or hybrid varieties. This requires storing the trees for the winter.

My storage process is simple – I water the trees then stick them in a detached garage that gets no lower than 15-20 F. Alternatively I could put them in another attached garage that gets down to 35-40 F. In the cool environment(s), the trees stay dormant and any chill requirement is more than covered. As noted above, no light is required. I add a little water every month or so just to keep the mix slightly damp.

I’ve never had the slightest damage. This year I’m storing a small purchased potted Cardinal (PCNA kaki), a small grafted (by me) Saiyo (PCA kaki), a small grafted Sheng (also PCA kaki), and some grafted Americans along with 5-6 potted DV rootstock trees, all with complete confidence.

So can you find a suitable corner in your garage?