Yes. My prok had that black tip at the bottom of the fruits. So I think your fruits are Prok.
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You could also send pics to Cliff and asked him.
Cricket Hill nursery stated that their pic of Prok came frommCliff.
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Yes it looks like prok
As ours has been ripening for 10 days to a week
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@PharmerDrewee @Barkslip yes, this is what I do too. I think what my issue is that I might be going against the growth habit of the varieties. Plus, the other factors such as white flies didn’t help….
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Yes, They say some persimmon varieties alternate years in terms of bumper crop. I have a lot of fuyu and NG this year. Beautiful photos btw!
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You’re training…
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Prok I have noticed will have slightly difference sizes depending on where it is grown
I will manage to get up the original tree to day to take some Photos for the Group
Thank you
Clifford England
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What I guess is coffee cake persimmon. This one was a little soft, so I tried it. It was good! Cinnamon flavor, mildly sweet, no bitterness or off flavors
These are the seeds that came out of it. This coffee cake is a graft with what should have been a chocolate graft on. A Saijo tree. I am assuming this is the coffee cake, the chocolate is a male and the fruit on the male branch doesn’t look like chocolate. The Saijo isn’t a Saijo. I shall call it the hot mess.
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This is good news though that you have so many persimmons so early! Your Coffeecake also managed to pollinate itself to induce nonastringency which is a big plus. I’ll have to report how my Chocolates taste whenever they ripen. The tree oddly hasn’t produced a single male flower yet.
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At least your Saijo is a kaki, mine wasn’t even that, and I wound up grafting it to H118 and buying another Saijo.
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Well, he said his “Chocolate” is a male, so I assume that means it flowered, it may have pollenized the Coffeecake.
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He also said the fruit on the male branch doesn’t look like Chocolate. All the fruit in the previous picture of the whole tree looked like Coffeecake. It’s known that Coffeecake does produce male blossoms.
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Yes, but the plot thickens because the “chocolate male” does not look and has not ripened like coffee cake. A persimmon mystery on the hot mess.
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That’s indeed fascinating! Maybe you have a completely different male variety grafted on there. I did think it was interesting that you have ripe Coffeecake whereas mine are only turning orange now yet we don’t live too far apart.
I think some places Maru gets called “Chocolate” and there is more than one “Maru”.
What they have in common is they are pollination variant and produce male flowers. Presumably all of which could potentially pollinize Coffeecake.
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Wow. You lucky devil!
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I have several grafts of this one but no fruit yet 
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