These are the last of the wild dv here on my place. Another small tree… but producing some nice smallish fruit.
I may find more when i forage for shagbark hickory nuts…
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Is that a different piece of fruit in the second picture?
This year about half of my Izu cracked near the calyx and turned black like that in the area. Those ones colored and ripened faster/sooner.
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Same fruit, just cut in half the other way. To get the longitudal cross-section, I cut one of those halves in half and bookmatched it–we had already started eating the other half.
I was wondering about that black spot.
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My TamKam has not fruited yet. How would you rank it against a standard Fuyu?
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I’ve not grown any Fuyu myself, so I can’t make a fair comparison. It’s better than grocery store Fuyu, but…
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Jiro.
Would you mind letting me know the size of pot and approximate height of the tree we’re looking at here? I’m looking to pick out a few cold-hardy NA cultivars and I’m hoping to get some fruit from a fairly compact form since I’ll need to store them inside the garage over the winter.
Given garage space I think these will be plenty hardy for me as a potted plant (5a WI) but it would also be nice to have a small enough pot to move in/out to extend my shoulder season and get some ripe fruits.
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Calyx separation happens with some varieties during some years. It was common for some of my PCNA varieties last year but we had none of that happening this past growing season. It doesn’t ever happen here with some varieties like Saijo though. The fruit flies would get in the cracks and cause spoilage.
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It is a 15 gallon pot with soil-less media so it does not weigh too heavily. Still when wet, it is heavy. It need my husband to help me carry it in and out of the garage.
I used a root sucker from a friend’s tree as a rootstock. If you could find a better rootstock, a dwarf one, if there is one, it would be great. I wish I could up-pot it to a 20 gallon pot as the tree has outgrown the pot. It has been in there for 4 years now.
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@driftless
The tree, pot included is bit over 5 ft tall. Rojo Brillante in pot grows slowly. It has not grown much since last year.
I had a Prok in a 15 gallon pot, planted the same year, same rootstock but Prok has grown vigorously. I don’t care for the fruit so I gave that Prok tree (and the pot) to a friend last month.
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Thank you, I did wonder specifically about rojo brillante since I caved and have a tree on the way. As if tucking in tam kam over winter wasn’t enough for me.
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Thanks! Fortunately I can grow d. virginiana outdoors here (given the right spot) and from everything I’ve read on here it sounds like d. kaki on d. virginiana are a bit better behaved in pots than d. virginiana on d. virginiana. I’m cautiously optimistic I’ll be able to come up with a system to move trees with a garden cart + hand cart + some type of rigid frame, so hopefully the weight won’t be too much a constraint.
I’ll be curious to see whether these take to root pruning like I’d do for some other potted trees given their taproot; my prior is that they don’t love it but at some point I have to imagine it’s necessary.
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Bob, @aap may have the system of moving heavy, large potted trees down pat. Hope he will share this method here again.
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Went for a stroll in the young orchard, stomping on mouse holes near trees, a little weeding and looking into tubes.
Looked into this tube with a Sosnovskaja Hybrid Persimmon and Looky Looky! A FRUIT!
So i pulled off the tube to make a nice little harvest and was surprised to find not one, but 4 nice sized and nicely ripened persimmons, I left the yellow one on, just to see how it handles the weather to come.
Comparison to some fruits from and older tree “Ruby”
I was really pretty happy to find those fruits hidden in the plant tube on a 1 year planted 2 year old tree! and this was a very cool wet summer where other fruits like Ruby were way smaller than usual.
Here is the now leafless Sophie’s Gift in my greenhouse. I ate two slightly underride, I think these are about ripe but i’ll wait a bit.
That’s the majority of my persimmon harvest this year… some SAA Pieper i had a month ago ripe but super small.
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Following @tonyOmahaz5 ’s suggestion, I put the last 5 JT-02 in a plastic bag with 5 ripe bananas and close the bag tightly. I left them in the bag for 4-5 days (forgot about it). I opened the bag today. All persimmons looked the same as when I put them in the bag (no noticeable change of color).
But when I ate the first 2, I was impressed, they were very sweet with no astringency. I measured brix of the 2nd one. It was 20.
Thanks, Tony. I am doing the same thing with 5 Rojo Brillante today.
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Walmart had 2 persimmon trees today, Morris Burton and Rosseyanka for $19.99 each. I searched for more but that was all they had.
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Here they are a couple weeks later. I can probably take them in by next weekend. There’s already some sugar crystalizing on the surface of a few.
Batch 2 went up today.
Saijo fruit must be processed quickly once removed from the tree otherwise they all soften rapidly. Putting them in the fridge buys a couple extra weeks of time to process them by slowing the softening.
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Looks like a carrot peeler in one of the pics. Did you use that or the knife? The first batch looks like they still have a while to go. Aren’t you supposed to be massaging them?
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