I have a local floppy PCA kaki and have seen people tie the branches of this variety to either support stakes or to the central leader with string. The trees have a bit of a cob-web vibe, but it’s better than breaking.
I had too much frost damage to prune and still get fruit this year, so I’ve ended up tying up some of the lower branches myself and it seems to work.
I’ll have to do my pruning way earlier and deeper next year,
Thanks, Maybe I’ll try the green nylon tape not sure if it will hold though. I do bonsai and thought about wiring the branches up to the main but that’s a long time to keep the wire on the bark.
Last year I only got a few so I didn’t expect it to get so loaded. That’s what I get for being greedy. Roots, shoots then fruits. Did prune quite a bit especially a side branch that was taking over. I wish I pulled all the persimmon off now earlier. It’s a Jiro Fuyu type.
Jiros are about the same size as Dunaj, which is also prone to breaking when overloaded.
I use the same hemp string as I do for tomatoes. Start at the leader closest to the branch, wrap around the branch a couple times stretching along about 30cm and tie higher up. That way the pressure is distributed and the fuzzy string does not leave impressions in the branch like a wire would.
That makes sense will try that out. Thanks!
How does Cardinal taste? Do you protect your tree, or it’s hardy in zone 6?
I noticed the exact same thing here this morning. Burrowed right in. I hadn’t noticed them before.
H63A left, H55A right. The H55A are sort of Prok sized (or on the small end of normal Prok size) and have been exceptional this year.
I took a bite, tasted something awful then felt a buzzing in the fruit.
I didn’t quite have that bad of luck. I noticed a fruit that looked dark on one side around a crack which seemed odd. I picked it and split it open and saw what looked like the japanese beetles.
99% sure this is Rosseyanka . I had slipped buds in seedling rootstock years ago and forgot about it never forcing the bud. The buds became dormant on a few trees and now I have fruit. I had given up on Rosseyanka being Hardy after losing many of them.
Hi have a small Bohzy Dar (God’s gift) that I grafted last year and didn’t have a place for yet so it has been in the treepot this year as well. It set a few fruit and I thought I’d let them develop and see if they held and what they were like. Although this variety is supposed to have some male flowers and is considered a possible hybrid pollinator I didn’t see any on it this year. Scionwood from Cliff.
It is reported to be Nakita’s Gift crossed with a Kaki male.
I may move this to my screened-in porch to keep animals from stealing the fruit so I can see how they taste. They are on the small side, I’d guess 30 grams or so, but of course, you could expect them to get at least somewhat bigger on a full-sized tree.
If they finish ripening I’ll report on the flavor and get a true weight once they are off the tree.
By the way, I’ve seen the name written as Bohzy Dar, Bohzii Dar, Bozhyj Dar and Bohzli Dar, so if someone has the correct name please let me know.
The accepted English transcript from Божий дар is Bozhyi dar. That’s what you will find in science papers, anyway. (The Slovak nursery sometimes looses a y/i as we transcribe Cyrilics differently than English does)
For further confusion, try using Google translate and convert “God’s gift” into Ukrainian and then Russian and check the transcript into Latin alphabet. Does either of them fit?
Do you grow it? Has it produced in there? Sounds like it might ripen earlier then many of the hybrids
My Giboshi (AKA Smith’s Best) is about 10 feet tall this year and had a light crop.
Last year I got 3 or persimmons and this year I’m getting about 10, although some early drops that ripened had very little flavor. This is a PVNA variety and should be pollinated by my Chocolate near it. The original source was @cousinfloyd.
They look to be averaging close to 100 grams each, which is a little smaller than I expected, but bigger than the first fruit from last year that more like 80 grams. These will need to ripen more on the table, but I couldn’t risk leaving them on the tree any longer since it is at my community garden and theft is really bad there this year. I’ve probably had 100 lbs of tomatoes stolen and several winter squash, so I didn’t want these to be too tempting.
I’ll post interior pictures and a taste report when they finish ripening.
My zone 5 is too cold. I have 20 of my own crosses of 87.5% DV and 12.5 % Kaki like H-120, H-118, Meader,NB#3 X Jerry Lehman hybrid male hardy to -33F going in 2nd leafs and survived -18F last Winter. 10 JT-02 that I dug up from the old house also survived the -18F. I have a bunch of Ukrainian and Cliff Hybrids in their first leaf and will be tested this coming winter and I don’t know how low it is in the -F. They are Dar Sofiyivky, Whopper, NB-02, Nikita #4, Buck Candy, UKR unreleased variety from Ukraine and A few Kaki crossed Tam Kam X Chocolate, Miss Kim X Cheong Pyong, and Saijo X Cheong Pyong. I buried all of the Hybrid persimmons union a foot under ground so will resprout to the same Cultivar just in case the Polar Vortex visit every 10 to 15 years with the -33F.
Tony
A nice surprise while walking behind the cabin yesterday- several ripe persimmons have already fallen. Most were eaten or squished before my daughter and I made it back to the house, but here are three. No calyx, only the very slightest hint of astringency. Zone 7b, Arkansas.
That looks like the dreaded Spotted Wing Drosophila on your H63A