@Nutbush-VA … we just had lunch and my wife, granddaughter and I just split 2 Kasandra persimmons.
They are absolutely delicious.
My wife said she wished she had a hot buttered biscuit to try kasandra on. I am sure that would be awesome.
Between IKKJiro and Kasandra… when both are at peak ripeness (red… soft an gooie) they are both absolutely delicious. If anything Kasandra may have a slight edge on flavor. It is a hard call though.
I went over to my sisters home today and collected a few more rich tooie persimmons.
@snarfing … when we were at Englands Orchard last year on October 14… his 100-46 tree was just starting to ripen fruit … around 10% was ripe… the rest not quite yet.
I am sure 100-46 would ripen fine for me… but I am several hundred miles south of EO so it would ripen earlier for me. For someone in NY it would be risky.
His H63A and H118 trees had already ripened and dropped all fruit by Oct 14.
Here in my orchard Barbaras blush and H63A ripened about the same time.
I bet H63A, H118 and WS8-10 would work ok for you.
For me, 100-46 ripens about the same time as Barbaras Blush, both coming after H-63a and Prok. I’ve harvested all of them now, although the last hafl dozen aren’t fully soft yet, so need a few more days on the counter. 100-46 had a few ripe for me before Barbaras Blush and seemed to ripen over a longer time, but it also had a larger crop so it is hard to tell.
My Ruby Ameican persimmon is definitely my latest and is just ripening now.
For context I also had my first Nakita’s Gift (pictured below), with about a dozen more to go. Probably one more will be ripe in a day or so, but all are fully orange. They turn more redish when they fully ripen and soften up. The plate below has the Nakita’s Gift, one of the last Barbara’s Blush and a couple Briguglio figs. All delicious.
I have 100-46 growing here in the Catskills, zone 5. It’s too immature to bear fruit, so can’t answer questions regarding ripening – I have my doubts though. My H-118 ripened fruit for the first time last year mid October, and is on schedule to do the same this year. Growing season here has usually ranged from Mother’s Day to Labor Day, but this year and last have had a little longer growing seasons than normal. I will give 100-46 a chance, but suspect I’ll eventually have to graft over it with one of the very early ripening varieties.
– from Minnesota hoping to get a persimmon tree someday, thank you for your post. I’d read somewhere else that 100-46 was a little late for northern zones. I’m going to try Claypool H-118 Prairie Star first.
Prok is grown in Zone 5 Iowa, harvesting last week of September.
I have. I bought a Mohler from them fall of 2023. Quality was very good. It was not as small as many potted persimmons I have received from other places, and it was not root bound. That’s about all I remember. I have a JT-02 coming from them this fall as well.
I had a graft of Mohler in year 2 this year… but a summer storm with some serious wind broke it off clean at the graft. Bummer.
It is supposed to be very early… starting to ripen early August at Englands Orchard. It could ripen late July for me…
Not sure I will replace it though… I do have a year 2 Journey hybrid… which is per Cliffs notes is first to ripen at his orchard. It may start to ripen in July here. He says it has the taste of vanilla.
I grafted Journey a couple years ago. It’s doing well for me too. It put on about a foot and a half of top growth this year; definitely a strong grower. It’s hard for me to get persimmon grafts to take because of the lack of reliable heat in spring, coupled with wild oscillations in temperature. Mohler has grown slower, as pure Americans seem to do opposed to hybrids. It seems like hybrids tend to put on a second growth flush. The early ripening time of both of them was of course my primary motivation, even then I don’t know if they’ll be early enough. I have tasted the vanilla flavor in a wild persimmon before, and found it very pleasant.
My potted Cardinal persimmon that flowered late on July 27th has begun to get a little color to the fruit. I’m happy to see this, as it makes me hopeful it will be able to ripen fruit easily when it flowers at the normal timing in early June.
The fruit only made it to about 2" diameter, though. Perhaps expected for flowering ~7 weeks late.
@speedengineer … this is how it went with my IKKJ this year.
Bloomed mid May
Showed first yellow/orange color Sept 4.
My first two fruits ripened Sept 23, 25… but they both had a little damage… like a bird peck.
More ripened late Sept and now in Early October all are good and orange but I am waiting for them to show some red and be nice and soft… they are soooo good like that.
I picked one today… going to share it with my wife after dinner.
Sampled H120 from my tree for the first time. Good size and great taste. Well worth putting in the orchard. That tree is a little closer to the wild males than the others, so they had about 3-4 seeds in them.
We were in Cape May NJ this weekend looking for monarch migration. There are so many persimmons there. Along the roads, behind the dunes, even tall 80’+ trees in the forest. All the fruits I sampled were excellent. Zero astringency when ripe. Fruits very much like Early Golden in size and quality. I found it interesting too that all the persimmon trees were consistent in fruiting quality and size. Seems the genome there is fairly tight. Someone should genotype them!
Yeah, there are really great specimens there. The ones I got fruit from were growing by the dunes in pure sand. The ocean spray gave them a wonderful, oceanic flavor that I have not had in other persimmons. The tree was only about 15 feet tall and was loaded. No pictures sadly.
Interesting how flat those H118’s are. Mine has not fruited yet. How about an updated ranking of your American varieties after all this years samples are in.
maybe i’ll wait till spring
