Persimmons Nikita's Gift vs. Saijo and Yates in Pacific NW

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My Nikita’s Gift today.
Jiro/Fuyu has a tough time ripening here in Seattle and getting very sweet. 2018 was a good year. Izu is totally reliable as it is a whole month earlier.
Best to focus on astringent varieties in the Seattle area.

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I think Saijo is supposed to be one of the smaller-fruited astringent kakis. Although I haven’t tried it yet, I take it as a good sign that it tastes great because of its popularity despite its diminutive fruit.

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I’ve got a couple of comments, that may not have been covered here. I believe H-118 and Prairie Star are the same persimmon. Also, many of the non astringent varieties get called “Fuyu”. Your coworkers tree could be Jiro or something else that ripens earlier.

Also if they live in the city, they get more heat.

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I know this was posted many years ago, but I just wanted to thank you for posting. We are in the Pacific Northwest in Shasta county at 4200 feet and we have two Nikita‘s gift and one Saijo persimmon, both young.

To be honest, we have tried store-bought persimmons and found them lacking flavor, but I read that you can pick them and dry them or make fruit leather, cakes and cookies and also we plan on slinging fruit at farmers market so it doesn’t hurt to have some varieties whether you end up loving them or not, someone will.

Also, they are beautiful trees.

I find it a little nutty that I can get any Asian persimmon I want, but can’t find any nursery with American persimmons that will ship to us in California lol.

I was considering putting an American persimmon in the back of the forest somewhere for wildlife.

I like that Saijo has smaller fruit because they should dry faster than hatchiya.

Now about 6 yrs later, still love your Saijo and NG fruits?

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I believe fruitwoodnursery.com has both rootstock and scion if you are willing to put in the work.

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What American varieties do you recommend?

We have an Italian grafting tool.

Thanks!

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I don’t know the American varieties well enough to make a recommendation. I seem to recall reading somewhere that you should use stainless steel when grafting persimmon, but I can not quote the source without some searching.