Holly that is my worry as well. Here is a list from Michigan that may be helpful.
www.michigan.gov › mdardPDF
Web results
White Pine Blister Rust Resistant Currant and Gooseberry … - State of Michigan
Edit : Google search and it will come up. I’m having trouble linking the pdf.
Aha hornbeam!!! Yeah, we have lots of that, it would work great! Here are some websites on pleached hedges, though some of them seem to be for ornament and are bare at the bottom.
DIY Pleaching - Learn How To Pleach Trees From Scratch
Pleached hedging | Buy pleached trees direct from hedgesonline.com
Pleached Hornbeam: Creating An Elegant Living Screen Of Greenery
Finally used “livestock” in my search terms and found the sort of hedge my husband was describing: Nationwide Inventory of Intangible Cultural Heritage | German Comission for UNESCO
Pleached hedges are a cultural-historical practice of field fencing. This artisanal technique used to be widespread and popular in Europe. Working with natural materials, that technique is still of value for active cultural landscape management and is kept alive in the region of Nieheim (North Rhine-Westphalia). Since it is in line with nature conservation objectives, the traditional craftsmanship has gained new relevance. After about seven years, a hedge has to be re-wattled in the period of late winter until spring. Pleached hedges save timber and act as a supplier of additional food for animals.
Willow trees provide the thin old willow branches needed for wattling. The hedges furthermore consist of hazel bushes and whitethorn. Functioning as living fences, therefore, they are predominantly found in landscapes dominated by pastoral agriculture. When barbed wire was introduced in the 20th century though, pleached hedges declined rapidly. They were replaced by wire fences, and knowledge of wattling hedges widely was no longer passed on from one generation to the next. In the Nieheim area, the technique of pleached hedging has survived until today.
Nonetheless do pleached hedges still fulfil a variety of functions: not only are they a simple fence and save timber, but they also provide shade for livestock, demarcate land from each other, provide additional timber as well as hazelnuts and fodder. “Nieheime’s landscape of hedges” offers a piece of cultural history. For some years, wild hedges have been restored to update the visual landscape and to emphasize the versatility of these hedges. It holds great ecological value for flora and fauna: Birds get new habitats; hedgehogs, rabbits, dormice or the dormouse and partridges find places to breed and nest. As part of annual activities in the region of Nieheim, interested parties, especially children and adolescents, have the opportunity to get to know weaving techniques in a hands-on manner.
https://hedgexpress.co.uk/blog/native-hedges-to-support-local-wildlife
More on hedges here. I picked dog rose hips from hedgerows to make rose hip syrup while I lived in England. Our native rambling rose, Rosa setigera, doesn’t make good hips for harvesting, but sure is pretty in bloom.
And a very long page showing amazing (!!!) photos of hedges, old and new.
consort is the only black currant immune to WPBR. most of the reds and whites as most gooseberries are as well. south of central Maine bans all Ribes but here in the north we are allowed gooseberry and red/ white currants. crandal clove currant is legal as its R. odortatum not R. nigrum which is illegal in most restricted states.
Michigan’s list is rather woefully out of date. But they don’t really care. I’ve communicated with MDA about it.
Unfortunately, I haven’t found anything they consider definitive on Black Velvet.
And, IIRC, the only red currant on that list is Rondom. Which is unobtanium. It’s one of my (many) frustrations with MDA.
That is good to know and it sounds like you are a few steps ahead of me. Thank you for the clarification!
For anybody who is interested, I did just record a podcast episode on coppice, pollard, and hedgelaying. It’s probably less detailed than the information in this thread, but if you want to listen along, it’s available on most podcast apps at this point, or you can access it directly here:
And Now I’m off to shop for serviceberry varieties that might do well in the hedge and also taste good.
A little After when you posted I read that Pollard coppice Download I sent,
and almost fell asleep reading it
It was long, but I have a better understanding of it.
Anyways
On that site someone listed it lists Spindle tree Our small native would be Wahoo Tree
I like the little seed pods like little red stars could also be used in floral arrangements for a weeding
I know girly girly girls like that sort of thing , but not that I am one or a girly guy I just like them too. .
(related to Burning bush)
Nice pictures by the way
Quote from Donna_intn link
insteading ---- blog hedge - laying
Hawthorne, Blackthorn, Hazel, Elm, Ash, Field Maple, Beech, Plum, Crab Apple, Holly, Primrose, Sweet Chestnut, Beech, Hornbeam, Whitebeam, Wild privet, Spindle, Balm-leaved Figwort, Bastard Balm, Campions, Cranesbills and Vetches.
Also they did recommend some smaller trees
sand cheeries get a few feet so do Wild Plums
Prunus pumila susquehanae
https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/trees/plants/susq_cherry.html
https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/trees/tree_index.htm%20
Are there no native currants in the forests of NH and other nearby states?
There appear to be several native currants in New England, including ribes americanum (eastern black currant) and ribes triste (swamp red currant).
https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/ribes/americanum/
https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/ribes/triste/
Both appear to be present throughout New England, but it’s hard to say how common they are. (My parents have one in their back yard - think it’s a swamp red currant but I’d have to check. I suppose it could be a naturalized European currant or maybe a hybrid, too.)
i have a wild gooseberry i found growing under my pines. i dug it and planted it in fun sun in the yard. its full of berries for the 1st time. ill post how it tastes on here. i guess they are more common than most people realize which makes the 100yr.old Ribes ban useless. if W.P.B.R was so bad why are there still pines standing with all those wild Ribes out there? N.Y was smart and dropped their ban. wish the rest of new england would follow suit. black currant would become a spray free commercial crop here very quickly.
Yeah, the currant at my parent’s house is right under some old white pines. So, it’s not like one bush is a bomb of WPBR death.
You may have seen this, but the University of Wisconsin did some field tests on black currants (and other unusual fruit) with an eye to commercial potential up north. They liked Titania and Ben Lomond.
Hmmm. I had seen a page where they’d also done some field trials of other Ribes sp. I should make a point of reaching out to them to see if they have better sources than I do as regards WBPR resistance. I’d probably get further with the MDA by handing them a pile of scholarly resources from a neighboring state’s University system.
Titania is supposed to be resistant to the White Pine Blister Rust…but I don’t care for it for fresh eating. Jelly or preserves…nice! (Mine had no blooms or fruit this year…maybe it doesn’t get enough sun where I’m growing it.) (On the other hand, blueberries have a good fruit set under the same shady conditions.)
Not many. They had people go through the woods and destroy them as a “work project” during the depression, or something. (At least, that’s what my husband’s uncle told me when he introduced me to his red currant bushes that had escaped the purge.
Red currants are legal on a county-by-county basis in MA, and I grow them. Like everything else, the critters eat all the berries before they are ripe. But my sister has enough bushes that the birds didn’t eat them all, and I managed to harvest a lot this year.
this a another post i could spend a week reading.
well, i learned something new again; i’ll HAVE TO circle back to this ‘laying a hedge’ thing you speak of (i’m trying to sound midevil english).
ideas
thank you for the inspiration. ‘laying a hedge’ is now on my To Do list 
GInda Twisted tree Nursery explains about the native bushes being torn up
(it states we have over 70 species native to the USA)
http://www.twisted-tree.net/white-pine-blister-rust-and-ribes
(also states I quote )
However new research has proved that Ribes are not the only alternate host**. Indian paint brush and Snap dragon**s have both been shown to spread WPBR to pines
Indian Paintbrush IS Native to the US
Snap dragon is Native but also other species are native to Europe Africa
so I am not sure what is a carrier the native or the European/African one
or all three the USA Snap dragons , and introduced ones.
Maybe most of what I say is a better topic under another thread
I thought I’d add since it was brought up…
Above Poster USC33 thanks for bringing up the Texas Red Mulberry
Just reading about that recently , By the way nice list of edible plants
As far as Rose of Sharon Since she is in Michigan I didn’t think they self seed at that location,
until I read the below Link, but In Northern IL. I have not seen them Self seed
USC33 your In maryland , but in the Midwest we do have Native Hibiscus Plants in the mallow family
(I did not know the name off the top of my head (it’s been a while, and most are small I remember),
but here is a random link
If I can get online more I can add some more for IL at least (and small)
Hibiscus moscheutos swamp Mallow rose mallow (5 to 8 feet tall, 8 in great conditions 3 feet wide)
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=1671
H. laevis Smooth rose mallow
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=1670
(Okay Actually read the species native to Michigan on the site ,
and will post those we have some in Il not in MI though)
Glade Mallow has a little bit of size to it
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=2880
Smaller plant (not for what your asking )
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=1679
Kind of almost native but west of you like in my area I suppose poppy Mallow (Callirhoe involucrata)
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=1669
And tilla Bass would trees (large tree used for Bass Instruments )
https://michiganflora.net/species.aspx?id=1681
Selection came from here
https://michiganflora.net/family.aspx?id=Malvaceae
Also you may recognize this weed I didn’t know the name before
Now going to have to eat it from now on. (maybe try to make cordage
Abutilon theophrasti Velvet leaf
https://pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Abutilon+theophrasti
Remember though, and I was just thinking of this just because a plant does not give fruit, or food
it can be beneficial like for gathering Native seeds to sell/trade or bringing in beneficial Insects or guests.
@Francis_Eric that wood bench is so gorgeous. I love the deep tones and swirling wood grain. So amazing.
Dang it I was about to plant Indian paintbrush!
