Red Leaves on Green Gage Plum?

Wow, look at all those fruits!

Yes, It’s more like Hollywood plum tree. I couldn’t find thundercloud from their inventory catalog either. It’s a good looking tree. I will keep it. Thanks for the investigation!

No problem - the discussion was between me myself and I and it got a little heated, then we got sequestered but finally we voted in favor of it being a Hollywood plum.

But, I will still report what Performance Nursery thinks it is, if they respond to my email inquiry.

I actually would be pleased to have a Hollywood plum, they look to get covered in flowers and so are probably great pollination helpers, lots of people like the fruit and they seem to be producing a lot of fruit and at a younger age in others’ gardens and someone even said theirs had fruit when other varieties did not, after some sort of stress to their orchard.

Its certainly possible. But that green edging @DragonflyLane and the growing tips @ql608 I would put money on NectaPlum. Love to here if the nursery knows what happened. Also keep us posted when they finally fruit!

But looking at pictures of young Hollywood plum trees … hmm :thinking:

Well, the only thing is, I didn’t see necta-plum on the list for performance nursery, but I’m not good with official names of anything. Do you see a necta-plum listed here on the PDF?
https://www.performancenursery.com/plants

OK, so someone at performance nursery is going to ask around to find out what our trees are, so I sent her this picture of yours and a picture of mine to use for reference.

I don’t have an answer yet, and I think we know what we have, but I just want to see what they say. They might actually already be aware of the problem and know how it got mixed up and therefore know what tree was labeled green gage erroneously.

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Well, looking at the picture, the flowers look more like from purple leaf ornament plum. I have both a purple leaf ornament plum tree and purple leaf fruit plum. The flowers on the fruit plum bloom/grow in cluster.
Is it possible that the nursery used purple leaf as rootstock and graft green Gage onto it , but the graft late died and left the rootstock in the pot.
BTW it seems Green Gage on purple leaf is precocious in my yard

That is a peach or peach hybrid. Spice-Zee isn’t the only red leafed peach/nectarine/nectaplum. The peach rootstock Flordaguard also has red leaves.

That inventory list only has ornamentals. There are no fruit trees at all, except for ornamental varieties of fruit trees like flowering peaches and purple leafed plums. None of those plums look like what @ql608 has though, so whatever this is, it’s not on their inventory.

The list of Latin names for everything but for fruit trees look for the word fruit in the F section.

Ah I missed that section. Went straight to Prunus.

That said, I don’t think any of their peaches or nectarines have red leaves. They don’t specify the rootstock used, but tree in question is probably Citation. It’s a common rootstock for stone fruit, especially in the California nursery trade, and is a peach hybrid with red leaves. The graft probably failed and a sucker grew up from the rootstock.

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The graft doesn’t look like it failed to me. I’ve been trying to upload a picture of the graft area since yesterday. The Internet Has been down a lot of places.

I too, was looking under Prunus and then I checked the whole darn list. It was surprised to see they didn’t follow the Latin names for all of them, that doesn’t make any sense.

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Geez I finally got it to upload because I’m closer to civilization. Noticed the paint color on the root stock is that universal? Does that mean any thing to you?

Also, I just enlarge the picture and noticed a green leaf sprout coming out of the root stock. I’m going to need to knock that off but it’s green not red.

I don’t think the paint color means anything.

It does look like a successful graft, but that’s definitely peach bark above the graft and something else below.

I will have to go see what they had for peaches and nectarines wouldn’t they have the same bark?

What is it about it that makes you think it couldn’t be a Hollywood plum?

Yes.

If you have the same tree as ql608, it has peach leaves, not plum leaves. Bud size/shape and bark are also more peach-like than plum.

Big nursery use paint color to help label cultivars sometimes. Dave Wilson labels their cultivars with it. That said if it is a rootstock or they labeled it wrong from the start it does not help too much. It does not help that years later you may not even notice the spray paint. I don’t see the spray paint from the trees I bought in 2020 or 2021 anymore. The trees I got last year and this year must be from a different supplier than Dave Wilson as they appear to have no spray paint on them.

Agreed @GrapeNut But I haven’t seen any other red leafed peaches with a green edging like the spice zee.

I’ll be the first to admit there’s lots I haven’t seen in this world though.

Seriously keep us posted! @DragonflyLane