This is helpful. Where do you see Carolina lime fall in the ability to wake up early and get hurt?
Does anyone know if the Clem x Yuzu that Madison sells is 2-2 or 3-3? This would have been figured out by trial and error/if there are any growing differences and you have both. I thought I had confirmed this last year, but apparently not and now they say it’s just “clem x yuzu” and not listed as either. As in, they don’t know.
Adding that I did a quick internet search and Google AI says the Clem x yuzu registered in state certification records is 2-2, but I don’t know how it figured that out.
Don’t have direct experience with Carolina lime - been meaning to get one - but just based on reported parentage (F2 trifoliata cross with mandarins - perhaps changsha and/or clementine) I would guess it’s going to be one that maintains dormancy pretty well.
I was just corresponding with Tom McClendon on this and his take was that everything he has seen in trade is 2-2. I was asking specifically with reference to Stan McKenzie’s plants but Tom’s response was that he had never been able to track down a 3-3, except maybe from a personal friend of Dr Brown’s in Texas, but the identity of that one was still to be determined. And I’m sure Tom knows Madison.
I only have one clem-yuzu, which came from Stan years ago, and generally agree that it is more akin to the description of 2,2 in Citrus for the Gulf Coast and Hardy Citrus for the Southeast, except that I don’t recall it ripening as early as October for me - although maybe I just never tried it that early.
Thank you for all of this!
I hadn’t been terribly impressed by Ten Degree Tangerine (Clem-yuzu 2,2, from Stan) over the decade or so I’ve had it - a bit skunky - but after this discussion and revisiting the descriptions of it ripening in October, I tried one today (late Sept) and I think I’ve been harvesting most of them too late. Still absolutely green this one tasted like a decent lemonade.
im going to toss some trifoliate orange and flying dragon seedlings in the ground here in z5, would potted seedlings make it in my over winter fig chamber? i think that got down to 0F briefly last winter but id have to check on that. i didnt lose any of my potted figs that grew all season. i did lose a few that were freshly rooted late summer.
Is anyone growing razzlequat? Comments?
my wife once saw limequats in the store and said “man they’ll quat anything” this name is going to do numbers in this house
Moved my new citrus into a greenhouse this afternoon.
I’ve had my Razzlequat for 22 years, in 15 gallon pot (~10 gallons dirt~), outside in summer, inside in cool basement for the winter, north-central Virginia, has never bloomed when other citrus have bloomed, is now around five feet tall.
It only got down to 18f, twice, for a short period of time.
Wow why do you keep it?
Still hoping. I want to incorporate some Erimocitrus glauca genetics into my outdoor mix. Maybe that will happen through some more recent purchases (including a full E.g.), but I’ll still use the Razzlequat also, if it chooses to bloom. I’m wondering if the dessert lime influence requires some different environmental conditions to initiate flower buds, compared to regular citrus.
I think Clem-yuz got that trait from Yuzu, where they lose their juiciness and interior fruit quality if they get too ripe. You almost want to pick them with some green on them before they start to dry out. Changsha behaves a bit similarly in that regard.
From what I hear, Eremocitrus have a higher heat requirement to bloom and have been stubborn with flowering in cooler climates. Our Eremomandarin seemed more precocious so it may be a better candidate to experiment with for certain climates.


