raindrops on roses
and midnight blue put out a bloom. my favorite one 
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I’m not one to care much about certifications when it comes to plants unless i need it for shipment or something along those lines but thank you. As long as i like something about it, i like it. If they make great cut bouquets, even better.
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What is the size of the #1 roses certified by American Rose Society? Do you buy them through American Rose Society?
There is a New England Rose Society here but I have not been interested (not yet, at least). I tend to be an impulse buyer. I see what I like, I buy it.
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A “climber” we planted several years ago that is pretty happy growing up beside my front porch. I believe it might be Don Juan, but it could also be Dublin Bay, lol. Another case for writing these things down when you plant them. I’ve come to realize that climber basically just means it will have long, lanky growth that you can support up against a house or over a trellis, but it doesn’t really climb like a vine.
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The grade of the rose bush is certified by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and the bush must have a minimum of three main cains growing off the base of the plant or the graft in the case of hybrid teas. The cains must be unblemished and at least 5/16” in diameter. Here in Nashville we get ours from various sources but mostly from a nursery named Certified Roses. You can also get the best roses from Jackson & Perkins as well as The Antique Rose Emporium in Texas. That’s just a couple of sources and there are many across the country; but your best pricing is going to be found at your local Rose Society. I have and still occasionally purchase roses from local shops if they are really good. I can appreciate your purchasing style but it’s what you do with the rose bush after you buy it that makes all the difference. You can get some really good deals at the local level late in the season when the poor things look like they’re about to throw in the towel. Even then they can still be resuscitated and do well in the garden.It really all starts with a good pH monitor and/or a valid soil test. pH is everything…and not just in roses. Without the proper pH a plant is not going to do much since the pH of the soil it’s in determines whether or not it can uptake the nutrients in the soil. In roses the best pH is slightly acidic 6.0-6.5. Sorry to take up so much of your time and I hope I’ve beenb a help not a hindrance.
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Burnet and a few other roses make a goth like black hip you might appreciate. Whoever show cased them on FB? wore black nail polish for a great video.
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Is it really like licorice?!? I love Mr. Lincoln for its old rose scent, also thorns not too many and easily removed. Harlow Carr and Gertrude Jekyll smell great but very obnoxiously thorny.
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My description is more of a mint aroma but there is a distinctive licorice like note. I have not smelled one in almost 40 years so take this with appropriate skepticism. But it should tell you something to think that after almost 40 years it is still the most memorable rose I’ve ever smelled.
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My climber with fragrant small blooms, multipetal and everbearing, is Madame Cecile Brunner. Perfumed the balcony and guest room (if window open) at this house, but went up three stories and worked under the siding, so now it’s 30 feet away from the house on a fence and arbor.
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Sombreuil. Very fragrant.
Queen Elizabeth. One of the easiest to grow in NC
This one is shabby this year due to the lack of rain. It’s been in my wife’s family for 80 years. I have no idea what kind.
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I love growing roses even though I’m in a tough climate for it. I believe this is Princess Alexandra of Kent which is a David Austin variety. Roses seem to get and attract everything - fungus, aphids, powdery mildew - but they battle through everything. It’s nice to grow something that isn’t ruined by the surrounding natural challenges - looking at you plum curculio decimating my peaches.
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This is one of my struggling climbers but man that absolute unit of a rose it keeps producing is super pretty! I hope it makes it and actually manages to get some growth going.
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Thanks for the response. I got rose bushes from a HD that fits your description. It was a large, large bush with good branches. I don’t know what the #1 grade on the tag is equivalent to the Rose Society #1 grade. It is only $25 a pot. Good enough for me.
Also, not every HD carries these roses. I have seen David Austin rose bushes sold at a supermarket like a Stop&Shop but not a Stop$Shop near me. This is MA.
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I love all the roses posted by members here. I wish I could grow climber but have no area for it to climb. My poor America has nothing to climb. I keep it because I like the color and form.
@Eugeneb do you think your rose could be America?
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Mamuang, those are some fine photos. You got a good deal…almost at cost. We get ours for $27 each. The guys at S&W Greenhouse in Whitehouse, TN gets theirs from Certified Roses as bare roots and pots them up in 3 gallon containers and keeps them in their greenhouse for about 8 weeks before delivering them to us. I give them 5 stars for their work. The roses are very high quality.
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It’s Arborose® Tangerine Skies, probably the most interesting non-standard color I’ve encountered so far.
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I used to buy roses from a few online nurseries with a good reputation. All sent small bands (i think that’s what they were called). It took a whole season or two of pampering them to establish as a bush.
I have gone crazy for fruit trees for the past 15 years so only buy roses when I see the ones I like.
Small rose-only nurseries went out of business probably because of Knockout rose popularity like @Fusion_power mentioned above.
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Yeah, you’re probably right about those knockouts. I don’t own any of those, and I probably will never own any of those. I’m in the search now to finalize the rest of my rose area that I’m going to be planting over the course of the next year to get some antique roses or old roses as they call them. People take cuttings of those things and put them in some root stimulator and put them in some good dirt and they take off and you’ve got a rose that’s on his own root. I hope to get some of those. The antique rose Emporium in Texas has a whole bunch of them.
If I understand you correctly, you have all of yours in containers? What are you using for fertilizer?
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Old garden roses have a beautiful form and many are fragrant. They tend to be large bushes. I have a small garden and they don’t fit in my small space. If I want old garden rose look-alikes, I buy David Austin roses. His work in hybridizing old garden roses to become beautiful repeat bloomers should be recognized. Unfortunately, many of his roses got black spots (and balling) here. Growing roses without spray can be a challenge where I live.
All my roses are in-ground. Growing roses in pots in my cold zone has several issues including having to drag pots in and out of a shelter for winter protection, something I am not interested in doing.
I only grow roses that can survive my zone 6a. When planting new roses, I planted them deep and mulch thickly for winter protection. They have all survived.
I amended my soil at planting with composted cow manured. I have used Rose Tone for fertilizing established roses but not often or consistently,
Rooting rose cutting is relatively easy. Mine have flowered 5 months after rooting. If I have a larger space, I could root many to fill those space. One time, I took a cutting from a beautiful yellow rose from a school yard. It turned out to be Graham Thomas, a David Austin climbing yellow rose. I removed it after a few years as it was too big for the space. I have regretted my decision. I should have tried to make it work. It was such a beautiful yellow climber.
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