'Spring Satin' Plumcot

I don’t have Spring Satin, but yours doesn’t look right to me. I don’t think it should be that pointed, or that red inside. Could it be Methley?

Bob,
I looked up many pics and came to a conclusion that neither yours or mine are the real Spring Satin.

Your plums have the wrong shape (too pointy). Mine have the wrong color of the flesh. It is supposed to be more yellow/amber, not red like your or mine. I don’t know what your and mine are.

Here’s mine

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I have Spring Satin tree that I bought from Starkbro. It should be the real deal. If you and @BobVance want scions of it, I can send them to you next Feb.

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Thanks, Annie.

You do have pics of the fruit?

Well, it should be in full production this year but wabbits chewed the branches very badly. I have a lot of new growth but no fruits
But I bought some fruits in local store couple of years back. I recall the fruits had some velvet fuzzy on the skin. The flesh was amber not red

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Mine bloomed a little but set 1 or zero fruits. It seems to be getting winter die back or something. I"m going to bud it over to a few other trees this week. I’ve gotten fruit in the past so maybe the winters lately have been to0 rough.

I hope not. I’ve had Methley from farmer’s markets in the past and haven’t been impressed. Also, I think it would be a bit earlier if it was Methley. Per the ACN chart (which has so far seemed pretty accurate for me), I’d be over half done with Methley by this point. Instead, none have ripened yet. Also, the Methley pics seem a bit rounder, without the pointed tip. Looks a bit like Elephant Heart, but the season is completely wrong for that (September).

Yours look closer to Methley. Especially so if they are already ripe for you. Are they juicy, mildly sweet and a bit bland?

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Bob,
What you have is NOT SS. Mine has fruited and ripened back in May. I don’t know what zone you’re in, but it’s called SS for a reason. It’s always the first fruit that ripens for me. I’ve posted numerous pics of what it looks like. It’s a purple skinned fruit that has a yellow meat that slowly turns red.

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Spring Satin Plumcot

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I’m pretty sure mine is the real spring satin, velvety purple skin and yellow flesh but mine turned purple a week or so ago and is still hard as a rock. Leaving it to hang longer but it’s mid July and not ripening earlier than my early plums, although it was the first to turn purple, but still too firm to eat

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Mam’s last pic is Spring Satin or a dead ringer, but certainly not Methely. You pic doesn’t look like any early plum or plot I’ve ever grown (I’m calling them plots for now on).

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Is the flesh on hers red, rather than amber because she let it hang so long? That would also explain why it is so late, if people normally pick SS when it is still amber.

Hmm- I guess it is good to have something unusual…I’m guessing they could get pretty sweet when fully ripe, if it is 12 brix now. I’m checking with the guy I got the wood from and haven’t heard back so far. But, I did see that he posted a pick a few days ago. It looks like some of his Spring Satin have the point (a couple on the bottom right), while others seem flatter.

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Here was my spring satin in June of 2016…my wood came from Scott.

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Maybe, the guy you go the scionwood from has a mislabeled plum, too?

Maybe, but some of his look pretty close to legit SS from the other pics above…I wonder if there is some variance in the shape.

The shape is never pointed like your pics show.
It’s totally round.

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I just thought the photo exaggerated the red of it because it looks so much like my Spring Satin from the outside, but now you have me thinking it IS Methely (I don’t grow it and haven’t looked at any real close for a while, but I do know it is a blood-red fleshed plum). If it is it doesn’t have the Santa Rosa complex of flavors that SS has. Methey is sweet but bland when fully ripe while SS just keeps getting richer as it gets riper.

I had 5 more on my tree that I just picked and ate the ripest, dead soft one and it was a very good piece of fruit with all that complexity and 15 brix. Not bad for the kind of season we are having, but it is getting the reflected light from the Airstream’s aluminum body. I purchased the tree from a Dave Wilson distributor and it came with a tag.

Talken about Mam’s plum, not yours.

SS is more “fuzzy”… to me @mamuang it looks like you have the right one, @BobVance yours look more like a pure plum and not an apricot hybrid. You need to rub a Spring Satin really really hard to get it to shine, they are more like a “satin finish” paint even when rubbed a bit.

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I am very happy that that you guys chime in trying to help @BobVance and I figure out what we have. His plum and my plum are also two different plums.

I went out and took more pics.
The outside looked like Spring Satin but it was also looked like Methley. I have about a dozen of them. They are all round, no pointed bottom.

However, the inside was more red than not. This makes me rule out Spring Satin. The color in the pics were pretty close to the actual color. Nothing amber about the flesh.

I can also peel its skin easily. I had Methley on another tree last year. It was like this in every way except for the size. These are bigger but lot of rain can do that to a lot of fruit.

I think @alan is right that I have Methley. The ripening time is not far off, either. Last year I picked Methley on 7/30. This year, it has been hot sooner and longer. That could have sped up ripening time.

@scottfsmith , @rayrose , @BobVance - Do you agree with my conclusion? A Methley plum for mine.

SS for sure. The skin is a bit fuzzy. The shape is also spot on as is the interior color. Ripening seems about right as well.

For a regular plum if you very lightly touch it and remove the bloom it will be shiny below. If you touch SS it will still be dull. You need to rub really hard to rub off the fuzz to get it shiny.

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