Bob, do you have Huk Kam or Huk Gam grafted?
Absolutely. It helps shorten the long winters. And I think it helps cut down on late season boredom purchases.
I had to read your question a couple times, to even notice the difference in spelling. It was sent to me as “Huk Gam”, originally from England’s. I went to his site now and I only see reference to “Huk Kam”, so I suspect that they are the same thing, unless you know that they are different.
I’m pretty sure Huk Gam is a cold hardy orange kaki while Huk Kam is a slightly less cold hardy (Cliff says -6 to -8) blue kaki. Both were listed separately on an older PDF I found online.
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I think I have the blue/black one, so maybe it is Huk Kam after-all…
This was the note I got with the wood, when I asked about Gam vs Kam (I google everything):
“The Huk Gam is a very interesting looking black persimmon. Its probably the Huk Kam you found, Cliff has changed what he calls it. It might be PVNA.”
Hopefully I’ll find out soon when it starts making persimmons. 
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Halford seems to be a nice understock. I have a nice Blushingstar on it-- one of my best-looking trees.
You can plant them now. The sooner the better. Keep the roots cool and damp until planting.
Hi Matt - Thanks for the advice. I am planting on Saturday since I leave on Sunday out of town for work. How are your trees this year, blooming yet in Maryland? In Lynchburg Va my plum tree has bloomed, my Desiree Peach, Belle of Georgia, Reliance and Red Haven are in bloom, my Hale Haven has a few blooms. My Elberta trees, Contender and Coral star have pink buds but no blooms. I expect the 23 degree weather will wreck havoc on the trees. I bought some tree covers but I doubt they will do much good.
My impression is Huk Gam and Huk Kam are the same thing. He had two trees of it and I think that caused it to appear twice in one of his lists. I have Huk Gam, or at least thats what the invoice from Cliff says. I also looked through his old list and found this:
흑 감 Huk Gam Black Persimmon
Those characters mean black in Korean. Google phoeneticizes it as “heug gam”. There are many different ways people phoeneticize Korean which is probably the reason for the Kam/Gam difference.
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Hi Spud,
When I checked last weekend, my plants had not bloomed yet. Only a few cherries, peaches, and blueberries had swelling buds.
I will revisit the site tomorrow.
An update on the pecan tree saga. Since apparently I’ve been drafted to do work here at Mom’s, I spent most of the day planting flower bulbs.
When I got done at about 5pm, I had planted 35 gladiolus, 3 Calla lillies, 8 Cannas, and 25 Freesia. And, tomorrow, I’ll be planting 10 4 o’clock’s (mirabilis). So hopefully in a few months, they’ll have a bunch of new flowers to enjoy.
Anyways, while I was clearing out a bed for the freesias on the south fence line, I found a few old pecan husks, which I assume came from the suspected pecan tree next door. So, maybe in four or five years, if they’re still living here, and the new tree does well, they might have some Cheyenne pecans to enjoy.
Mom always has “chores” for you to do. That was a lot of plants. You were busy all day.
That would be great to have some pecans in a few years. Glad her neighbor has a pecan tree for pollination. Pecans always taste so good when they are fresh. Glad I can’t grow pecans up here. I’d have a LOT of pecan trees.
My aunt and uncle lived in AL for a number of years. They had some pecan trees there on their property. My aunt made the best pecan pie, coffee cake, and also some sort of pecan tart type thing. Hard to describe but it was served warm and it was DELICIOUS! Of course now I want the recipe and she has long since passed away.
Just like my grandmothers fried apple hand pies she would make years ago. I wish I had gotten that recipe. Of course they really didn’t have a recipe they used. They just made it. I would have to stop them and measure what ingredients they were using and then write it down and try, try mind you, to make it taste like theirs did. Impossible!!
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The nectaplum is a producer, very impressive. Here though the low acid flavor is not that good as it’s hard in colder zones to get that sugar up. Still I like this tree. It produces lot’s of nutritious fruit for my family.
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Well, after already ordering three more apple trees, plus one pear and peach, and a bunch of berry and tart cherry bushes, I thought I was done with my ordering for this year.
Until last night…
Guess I was taking having my NCAA bracket messed up with Kansas choking much too hard, so I needed some therapy.
I made the mistake of getting on Adams County Nursery’s website and was doing a bit of perusing, you know, just looking around. It’s like telling an alcoholic not to buy anything when he just happens to venture into a liquor store.
Anyways, I read some good reviews of Harrow Sweet pear on here and other sites, and ACN just happened to have some available. Plus, I had been looking for a Contender peach all winter and couldn’t find one. I thought ACN didn’t have any earlier in the year, but I guess they did a re-inventory, and now they do. So, I had to pick one of those up. It’s only $20 to ship the two trees, so not a big expenditure. Don’t know when they’ll come in, I’ll give them a call tomorrow and see. I got a bunch of stuff already coming in this week.
Any comments on Harrow Sweet? It looks like it’s a fine pear. Is the texture firm, or softer, and what kind of flavors are we talking about, and how good does it store?
So, just two trees. I promise I’m done. Plus, I haven’t told my wife about it yet. She was probably wondering why I didn’t come to bed until 2:30.
Excuse me, but I’ve just seen that Stark Bros has some berry plants on sale. Be right back…
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Should I tell you I just got an email that Ison’s is having a sale?
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No, don’t tell me, don’t be an enabler. 
I’ve got like 8 tabs open on my browser right now, just jumping around from site to site. It’s been raining all morning and is raining some more now, so I’ve got to do something.
Just a follow up question to my post about ordering a Harrow Sweet pear. I got it on OHxF 87 rootstock. Is that a more precocious RS than the 97 version? Also, how precocious is HS as a variety? I know pears take a while to start producing, but what are we looking at with this combination in years to produce?
I have gotten all the trees I ordered this year in the ground. Here is my feedback on the companies and trees -
Cummins - had to cancel my order because they did not have 2 cherry trees I ordered and paid for. Disappointed.
Adams County Nursery - The 6 peach trees I got from Adams County were very small compared to the trees I got from
Raintree and Vanwell. ACN says trees average 1/2 to 5/8. 2 peach trees were in the that range but the other 4 were on the puny size. All had great root systems. Took 3 days to arrive from Penn to Virginia
Raintree - 1 apple, 1 Cherry and 1 Peach. Good trees in the 5/8 range with good roots. Took 3 days to arrive from Washington State. Cherry was a straight whip with no branches, will be interesting to see how this grows.
Plantmegreen - I ordered 2 - 3 foot trees costing 8 to 9 dollars each - shipping was cheap $14 for 4 trees to Virginia from Florida. One Apple, 2 Plums and 2 Peaches. Two trees had excellent root systems 2 had root systems that had been trimmed hard but were still viable trees.
Edible Landscaping - I ordered two Cherry trees, one in a 3 gallon pot and one in a 7 gallon pot. The 7 gallon was a nice tree, what I expected. the 3 gallon was small and I felt overpriced. I picked the trees up from the nursery but they ship also.
Finally the best for last - Vanwell Nursery - 5 peach trees, all thick 3/4 trees with good root stocks. There price is cheaper than many other nursery but shipping is higher. Roots were good. It took 7 days from Washington State to get to Virginia but the trees were packed with wet newspaper and all trees were moist when I received from them. The lady who answers the phone at Vanwell is an older lady who is a little cranky but if your patient she will help you and give you good service. With Vanwell you need to order a year in advance (now) to get the best selection.
Next year I will try GrowOrganic to get late producing peach varieties (Carnival and Fairtime) and I have an order in with Brandt’s for 4 cherry trees. Then I am done with trees … Yeah right. Best of luck to everyone with there new trees.
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Some of the peach trees I planted this year have pink buds - should I let them produce fruit the first year? I think I read it would slow the development of the tree. Any thoughts?
I’ve gotten a little decent fruit on first yr trees over the yrs. But mostly it aborts or is subpar in eating quality. You could leave one or two fruit if it’s on sturdy wood. That won’t slow the tree down if growing conditions are good. However conditions that favor rapid tree establishment, high water and fertility, result in poor quality fruit. A tree needs a big root system and somewhat limited water and nitrogen to make the best fruit.
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I have gotten a shipping notice for my order from @TurkeyCreekTrees just recently.
Some pears for ya @clarkinks
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