I’ve only tried two Flavor Supreme and King. Haven’t heard of the other two.
F Supreme has some tartness at skin and pit. But it’s widely recognized as one of the very best plum/pluot. Properly grown it’s nothing short of sensational IMO.
If any pluot is better it’s F King. This one has less to no tartness.
There are sweeter pluots but none better for flavor. And both are very sweet or at least can be in the right climate and culture. They need heat and not over watered to be at their best. You need summer heat in the 30C range.
Couldnt resist and put in Flavor Supreme and Flavor King myself, knowing about the risk. Our summer are even less consistent in the 30°C - range. But the heck, descriptions of the fruit qualities of those 2 varieties sound so promising to me…
I planted them into an espalier hoping for the best.
@Austro_PawPaw: Stay away of those “Blue Mirabelle”. They actually are not a mirabelle but a simple myrobalane. I am not happy reading their product description. They seem to mix them up with true mirabelles on purpose, just hinting on the fact its not a mirabelle.
Its their fault cause they put those Kriecherl and Mirabelle de Nancy into the same basket.
Of course it is close related to other plums but their quality is way of compared to mirabelles. Plus mirabelles are always freestone and Myrobalane are not.
There is no dark fleshed extremely sweet europ. plum. Green Gage and Mirabelle de Nancy are very sweet and might fit you.
There are very sweet europ. plums too but not dark fleshed. Valor can get very sweet. Toptaste is very sweet but has other disadvantages (not free stone) and many more.
If a yellow fruit is ok for you, you might try to get Aprimira. But be careful about your source since there is a wrong labeled Aprimira that doesnt taste as well as the true stuff. Its an offspring of Mirabelle von Herrenhausen. I will put Aprimira in as soon as I get it (scion swap).
Flavor Grenade pluot is excellent pluot very sweet and crisp hand well on the tree for long time and the only one I know do well in the cooler areas without changing its flavor. Hopefully the nurseries there will be available for it some day. Or some one in US ship bare root or its seeds to you, but some they say seedling come out not true variety. I am living in Pacific Northwest very cool place, planted one last year, not fruiting yet but a lot of flower now.
Thanks for the heads up. Will do 3-4 layer of scaffolds, 50 cm in between scaffolds. For that I do need some vigor. After that some fruiting would be nice to calm down the tree.
My trees are on st. julien a rootstock. Its moderate vigor combined with my sandy soil (on the dry side) might be enough to keep em in check. St julien a is known to have low vigor on light and dry soils, sometimes too low. Will see
Flavor King is not that vigorous and may do well as an espalier.
I grow both, going on 5th leaf and Flavor Supreme has never produced so far. They bloom early, Flavor King produced a few and man it’s good. Tastes nothing like any plum I ever had, in a good way! Still I would probably not have put them in, although even getting half a dozen seems worth it. Mine are all on one tree. This year looks good, they are just loaded with buds, but I’m a month away from last possible frost. Which is fine, but heavy freezes can happen too. My cacti and figs are outside now. My cacti can take frost no problem.