Why are persimmons not more mainstream at the big box stores?

Last year Krogers had some olive trees for Z6. That was kinda odd. I never see persimmons at Lowes. Walmart, Tractor Supply, Rural King and other stores that sell fruit trees.

Why are persimmons not more mainstream at the big box stores?

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Because people don’t know what they are, so no one asks for them, so no one stocks them, so no one knows what they are…

In other words, it’s the fine print of supply and demand. There’s no demand for a product folks haven’t heard of, and big companies don’t like to take too many risks marketing products without demonstrated demand. One side or the other has to take the first step.

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It’s still Alberta peach and Red Delicious apple around here. Or Anna apple and no chill peaches that bloom in January.

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The box stores are notorious for selling varieties that are inappropriate for local growing conditions, such as USDA Zone and length of the growing season. Won’t more persimmons in northern stores just mean more wasted money and more dead trees?

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We’re fortunate to have local suppliers and a nursery that has over 50 huge greenhouses, but no persimmons. Most around here have natives that are not that good.

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Perhaps in part because they’re just not trendy. Olive trees… popular as mainstream decor for the last few years. Lots of faux plants people put indoors, or if the climate is right potted live.

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I have seen them at Rural King before. It may be regional, or it might be the luck of the draw what the nurseries send to each store.

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Maybe it is not time for them to sell persimmon trees. Apples, pears, and stone fruits first

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I’ve only eaten a few wild American persimmons. Unless they get a whole lot better than the ones I ate, I’d see no reason to plant them for human consumption.

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Have always been interested in persimmons, but never tried one. Never see them in grocery stores.
I picture them being mushy, sticky, maybe a bit like custard inside? Kinda bright orangey-yellow. Something like a cross between an apple and a tomato, but entirely unlike either. Something of a weird halloween vibe.
Well that was my impression. I could be way off.

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@jeffpas
I have some wild American ones in my neighborhood. The best way I can describe the flavor it has it ā€œorange hi-cā€ that I had as a kid. Very sweet. But they are also small and full of seeds. The skin is also tissue paper thin so if they hit the ground they splat. Granted, it’s a wild one going along the wood line. But it’s pretty good.

The fuyu I’ve gotten at the store reminded me of cantaloupe with like a brown sugar flavor

It’s also kinda like I don’t think a lot of people have pawpaw in my area. one person i didn’t even know they could grow here, even tho Maryland is like in the middle of their natural area

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Costco sells fuyu online, haven’t seen it in the actual store though.

I didn’t buy it because I am not interested in fuyu.

I’ve tried hatchiya and fuyu from the store and I got the impression of canned pumpkin on a mushy one. Plain canned pumpkin, not a pumpkin pie flavor.

I decided to plant one Saijo, two Nikitaā€˜s gift and most recently I’m going to try grafting some Americans because I can’t find a tree.

Saijo really put on a lot of growth. I think it likes it here. Nikita grows too just not as much as the Saijo did in one year. Saijo also has very pretty glossy leaves and soft, fuzzy limbs.

We’ll see how that goes and I don’t even know if I’ll like any of them, but at least they’re not things I can find locally and I’m sure someone will like them if not the wildlife.

I would like to try drying them.

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