Wildlife in our gardens

I didn’t get to listen to the whole podcast. That being said I somewhat see her point if the amount I heard is representative of her opinion. I’m a hunter. Hunters are conservationists. To many kills? Not enough to sustain for the future. I do believe humans are encroaching on wild animals. In more ways than one. I am also an advocate of proper rational uses of hunting. I also do know many people kill animals just because they dislike them or out of fear. I do believe we need to remember they were here first. But I also think if the animal is going to harm the human we can protect ourselves from them. I also believe we can eat what is the appropriate amount. I am torn on government involvement and won’t go there lest I be banned for political speak. Regardless. I’m an animal lover. I’m a hunter. I’m a conservationist. That my story and I’m sticking to it. The podcast I heard seems interesting and I will take the time when available to listen to the whole thing. Thanks

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Actually . . . her take on it seemed more about relating some interesting behaviors on the part of animals - which we would label ‘crimes’ if it were humans doing it . And many of her stories were rather funny - and surprising.
She was not about ‘never taking a bear out’ if it is aggressive or endangering animals or people . . . just that if there is a more humane alternative to controlling bears who break into people’s homes, or ‘whatever’ . . . she is all for that. Relocating them, etc.

And she never said anything - either way - (that I could recall) - about hunters or hunting. She actually seemed rather neutral about many points that could be ‘controversial’.

I have some real lead, not the copper or steel stuff, if a bear comes in on me.

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I saw some type of wild cat last night it’s hard to make out what it was had a real bushy tail I guess it was a panther or maybe a large fox of some kind had a small head on it though for the big body, slender long legs, it was 3 time larger than a cat.

Definitely not a bobcat I know that much, unless a bobcat can have a long bushy tail.

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Sounds like we have similar views. It always kind of bugs me when I tell someone I’m a hunter and they say something like “oh, I like animals too much to hunt”. Or they assume we don’t care about animal welfare or habitat, etc. In reality, it is the money from the sale of hunting licenses that funds the vast majority of wild animal saving programs, restorations, etc and no one enjoys animals and wildlife more than most hunters. Sure, there are some idiots who give good hunters a bad name, but most are responsible, conservationists who love animals and the land they live on.

BTW…just curious if you are familiar with the netflix series or the host Steven Rinella (who also has a podcost). I really like that guy a lot. He does a great job explaining the hunting/conservation thing .

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Ya, Know, I have a feeling it may be sooner than later that if Americans desire meat for supper they get a gun and go hunting…'cause the stores
may not have meat or eggs or milk at some point in the future.

Reminds me of 60 years ago in Eastern Kentucky.

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Gotcha. On the subject of relocating. We have many bears that get relocated from Orlando and surrounding areas because people there just won’t stop feeding them. It’s the human fault in this case. Then they relocate them to the Ocala National Forest and now it’s full of aggressive bear that ate basically un afraid of humans. Vicious cycle. BB I use lead too. They’ve always run from me here. Black bear in Florida are generally scared of humans.

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Not familiar. I will look up his Podcast but as a general rule I don’t watch TV anymore. Just can’t take it. I love animals. Always had dogs or cats and they live like kings and queens. I’m a big fan of my meat not having and genetic altering, steroids or growth hormones either. Seems to me.anyone who wants clean meat would be for hunting. That’s if they eat meat. I do. Just an aside that’s interesting to me when people say we shouldn’t hunt. I work in the alcohol industry. On one hand I know it can be very destructive. On the other I’m not here to tell people they can or can’t drink. Maybe a bad comparison but kind of how I see it.

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Funny how they complain about hunters but will gladly clear cut wooded habitats to build new homes, and not even care about the wildlife they are displacing. Just had a few acres down the road from me get developed this summer. Makes me think the deer pressure will be 10x worse next season due to this.

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I have been in Colorado the past week… wedding anniversary trip.

These critters were spotted mostly on the side of the road… or even in the yard at the cabin we stayed at… we stayed in Colorado springs a few days then to Estes Park.

Great trip.

We did get HI a time or two :smile:

Gorgeous place !!!

TNHunter

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beautiful! any trout rolling on that lake?

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Stunning how fast they grow up. These guys are 3-4 months old with Momma

JCS_2312

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@steveb4 - we hiked to several lakes… 5 or 6 at least but that Dream Lake was the most beautiful lake I have ever seen. You know how fishermen are… always looking out for fish… but I never spotted one.

That dream lake was near 10,000 elevation… a glacial lake… but they said there are cut-throat trout in it. I saw a fellow catch one of those at another lake (next to a spot we ate breakfast one morning)… pretty fish. Lots of red around the gill area… speckled, nice camo pattern.

Every lake we saw has lots of chunk rock all around the edge… good places to hide. Lots of people walking by to so they probably stayed hidden most of the time.

Some of the critters like chip monks… were EXTRA friendly… and not shy of humans at all. In fact when they saw someone coming down the trail, they would run up on top of a rock and beg for food (some people obviously not obeying the signs… do not feed the animals) :slight_smile:

We did see a Bull Moose… but at 250 yards, my cell phone camera did not do it justice. Got a pick but somewhat blurry…

Did not see any Bears or Big Horn Sheep…

We drove from Colorado Springs to Estes Park taking the historic / scenic routes… and SOOOO Many beautiful mountains and ravines, rivers, lakes…

We planned this trip for our 30 year Anniversary, but then put that on pause because of this CV19 thing… and when that sort of died back some we went ahead and got it scheduled… and then the Delta thing came around… this time we just went on anyway… and glad we did.

We have been married 31 years and a few months now… I am a LUCKY guy for sure.

TNHunter

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Another butterfly emerging near my maypops.

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Trev, sounds like a fabulous, ‘spirit cleansing’ trip! Glad you got to take it.

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It was a awesome trip for sure… and “the works for HIS hands”… were breathtaking.

Makes me think of Job 12 - 7-10, Psalms 19 - 1-4.
Their message has gone out for sure…

Thanks
TNHunter

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This is the reason why our garden and orchard looks like a small prison camp.

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This Stellar’s jay has been hanging around my bay nut tree, I believe it’s nesting in the tree somewhere. It landed on my railing and squawked at me through the window and I was really confused until I realized it was looking at my harvested nuts through the window and wanted some. I left a couple on the railing for him:

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First chicks. Gonna give it a shot. Hopefully they will all live. looks like 10 out of 11 right now .2

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They all made it through the night! Woohoo!!

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