@Grumpygardener
Had not heard of it but i know how to find out more about it.
In warmer climates black persimmon is called black sapote but it is Diospyros nigra
Diospyros nigra, the black sapote, is a species of persimmon. Common names include chocolate pudding fruit, black soapapple and (in Spanish) zapote prieto. The tropical fruit tree is native to Mexico, Central America, and Colombia. The common name sapote refers to any soft, edible fruit. Black sapote is not related to white sapote nor mamey sapote. The genus Diospyros has numerous other fruit bearing tree species in addition to the persimmons and black sapote.
The etymology of Diospyros is "d...
Seedlings are around $50 and are zone 10 hardy
This is not to be confused with Diospyros texana
Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center - The University of Texas at Austin .
Or to be confused with the frequently used rootstock black date plum Diospyros lotus which can survive zone 6 - 9 in my experience. It is used often for kaki or hybrid rootstock
Date-plum aka Lotus Persimmon, Caucasian Persimmon, Lilac Persimmon, False Lote tree (Diospyros lotus) is the most common rootstock used for Oriental persimmons in this country. Its abundant small fruit is eaten fresh or made into jelly when fully...
Price: USD 15.00
Finally back to your question about Diospyros virginiana
Diospyros mosieri S.F.Blake
Diospyros virginiana is a persimmon species commonly called the American persimmon, common persimmon, eastern persimmon, simmon, possumwood, possum apples, or sugar plum. It ranges from southern Connecticut to Florida, and west to Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa. The tree grows wild but has been cultivated for its fruit and wood since prehistoric times by Native Americans.
Diospyros virginiana grows to 20 m (66 ft), in well-drained soil. The tree is ...
This publication below discusses positives and negatives of this type of tree and its diseases. Specifically black spot later referred to in the Claypool documents.
University of Florida, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences Extension outreach is a partnership between state, federal, and county governments to provide scientific knowledge and expertise to the public. The University of Florida (UF),...
We have discussed much more here Who's Growing Improved American Persimmons? Suggestions welcome!
Specifically this post Who's Growing Improved American Persimmons? Suggestions welcome! - #259 by clarkinks Claypool Orchard Records copy.pdf (12.5 MB)CLAYP.XLS (368 KB)Claypool orchard 2005 (1).pdf (619.4 KB)
On page 30 of the 12.5 MB records of Claypools orchard we find G-78. It calls the color a 5. Skin was a 6. -35 degrees celsius = -31 degrees fahrenheit so it could be Claypools since it worked in his climate.
Unfortunately Jerry Lehman has passed away. The information is very limited we have.
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