I’ve been looking too, and the only thing I could find was that seatle fruit growers post from 10 years ago on fb(cant even view it, just the google search result)
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Not that I know. But there is a chance that ‘Wang Bo’ and ‘Daiougoumi’ are the same cultivar. Can not prove it.
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I did not buy. It was a present. But there have at least 3 nurseries been propagating it over the last 2, 3 years. Give it another 2 years and I guess it will become commercially available.
It is the best if we talk about the eating experience. I like it a lot. If we talk about flavor and sweetness only I would go with Borinka-2 and Bigaard 2
I do think SC is a better choice than SSP.
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Daigoumi is at least 2xs rounder in the middle than Carmine or Tilamook but roughly the same length. I find my Diagoumi to be similar in taste to the others you mentioned.
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Yes I will go for the SC, then I need a partner. Which one of Ssp and Dr. Szczepan would you favor? 
Cliff’s Wang Bo and Daiougoumi have similar meanings in English. I think they’re roughly, “Big Berry” or “King Berry.” Based on what Cliff told me.
Yes, Wang is king in Chinese, dai is big in Japanese
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“Wang” (왕) is also “king” in Korean. “Dai” (대) is “large” in Korean.
Edit: Pronunciation note for the Korean…
- “Wang” (왕) - The “-ang” would be pronounced like the “ong” in “ping-pong”
- “Dai” (대) - Pronounced like “day”
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That is basically what i ve figured out too and why i believe so.
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Dr Szczepan might be less thorny and more compact in growth.
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Well, I’m seeing my Elaeagnus multiflora (Sweet Scarlet and Tillamook (aka, Carmine)) getting ready to bud here in Maryland, USA. I keep thinking of the Daiougoumi. Do you know if the Elaeagnus multiflora / Goumi are true-to-seed? Are you planting seeds from the Daiougoumi?
I just planted seeds from the Tillamook last year, 2024.
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Thy don’t come true from seed. But I am growing plenty seedlings of Daiougoumi and Carmine.
Trying to select for better cultivars. Generally speaking Daiougoumi Seedling fruits have a similar size to Carmine. Maybe a little smaller.
My red gem is first out this spring with a few blossoms and small leaves showing up.
Sweet scarlet is just a little behind it… buds opening… but no blossoms or leaves yet.
Carmine (grafts) are somewhere in the middle.
TNHunter
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Do the blooms really smell like lilacs? Mine were planted last year and did have a few fruit on them, but I missed their blossoming; I’m eager to witness it this year.
I think goumi flowers smell different than lilac, but equally potent. My goumis smell the strongest in the evening- before and after sundown. I’m not surprised you missed the flowers on a small recently planted bush - the flowers aren’t in an influorescence like lilacs, and the pale yellow flowers aren’t particularly large or showy. Once your bushes are well-established they will be covered in flowers and then they (and their smell) will be impossible to miss.
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Thanks! You didn’t mention whether the smell is pleasant or not–I’m hoping if it’s impossible to miss that it’s a good smell! I actually did see a few blooms, but was unable to smell anything!
Yes, I called it a heavenly smell in an earlier post, so I definitely think it’s a pleasant smell. I like it better than lilac - less floral and more spicey, but I’m not great at describing smells. I think goumi would be worth growing just for the smell, but I do like the fruit too. I see a lot of the related Elaeagnus pungens planted here in NC just for the smell and the ornamental qualities.
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Oh, that’s great, sorry I missed that that was you who called it a heavenly smell! I remember ordering a number of peonies because I thought that they all would smell just like the few very old varieties that were here. The catalog described them as fragrant, which at the time, I assumed meant pleasant…nope! Oh, well, I just don’t bring some varieties into the house!
My Goumis are well over a decade old and their fragrance is barely noticible (Sweet Scarlet from One Green World or Raintree). I have olfactory issues (predating Covid) but my wife and kids don’t notice a particularly strong emell from them either.
I also have autumn olive and variegated silverberry. So there’s no shortage of Eleagnus sp plants in the yard.
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