Nikita’s Gift is not non-astringent. So it cannot be a “PCNA hybrid.”
Last hybrid that I’ve harvested is Kolhospnitsa - a mother of Dar Sofiyivky. It was bred from Nikitskaya Bordovaya crossed with kaki. Attractive and very tasty fruit can reach 250g. Tree has a neat structure reminiscent of D. kaki. Hardiness is equal to its mother Nikita which is quite surprising. It ripens after Nikita.
My thoughts are with the breeder Vasil Derevyanko and his family who are (were) living in the occupied Kherson.
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Those are really beautiful fruit. I certainly hope all is well with the breeder and all those in the occupied areas.
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Kolgospnitsa is a Collective farm girl ( member ). The Russian name is Kolhoznitza.- the same meaning as Ukranian
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Is that true – nobody?
Well, last year on a lark I grafted JT-02 to my Prok and IKKJ. There is one fruit on one of those grafts; others formed but dropped. If I show a photo tomorrow, will I be the first?
p.s. Nevermind, I showed photos tonight. Try the link below; I think it’s post 801.
And I think I had published them 2 weeks ago. Anyway, nobody can say nobody no more.
Edit; Here’s a picture of the JT-02 fruit, which I picked today.
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Hi Harbin,
I enjoy seeing your impressive types of persimmon.
I live near Seattle, Wa which I think may have a climate similar to yours. Can you tell me your nearest large city likely to have a weather station so I can compare climate and growing degree day data. I have grafted some of the varieties you mention to be ripening in your region, so I would like to compare data to guide my future grafting efforts since none of my recent grafts have yet fruited.
Dennis
Kent, wa
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Brno
The Dar Sophievki persimmon intrigued me very much, as I am trying to decide on a cold-hardy hybrid cultivar to replace my current Barbara’s Blush persimmon (which is very productive but I think we prefer the taste of Asian persimmons). Can I ask you how you know that it’s cold-hardy to zone 5B? The only place I could find any information about it is this: Persimmon Tree (Diospyros kaki) DAR SOPHIEVKI and they say its hardy to -24C, the same as Bozhy Dar which is listed as zone 6. (I am in zone 5B so this difference between 5B and 6 is important to me). Also, you mentioned you will be selling these scions this winter. Are you in the US and can ship to Ohio? Thanks in advance for the info!
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Welcome AvidSlacker. I’m glad you made your way over. Hopefully someone more experienced than I can help you out. If you find something I grow in my profile header that you like, let me know and I can send it (I probably won’t cut scions until February though).
Dar Sofiyivky is in at least 2 places in the U.S. I’m pretty sure it won’t be sold as scionwood until next spring. It might still be possible to bring it in from Ukraine or adjacent countries.
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Thanks, and thanks again for pointing me to this forum.
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I did contact Cliff to see if he had obtained Dar Sofiyivky and he said he received some wood from it last year and only two buds were viable. He has them grafted on 2 small persimmons in a greenhouse. He says if they survive that he’ll be grafting them onto a larger tree to hopefully be able to supply scion wood in the future.
He called it “gift of sofie” rather than Dar Sofiyivky.
So it is in the States.
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No matter what you call it the correct name will always be "Dar Sofiyivky - Gift of Sofiyivka.
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@AvidSlacker you should plant JT-02 and if you have room later and have the willingness to learn if Dar Sofiyivky will be hardy, then you’re not out anything. So far the only 5b “Asian type” is JT-02 and it’s incredibly hardy to -22F for cropping and beyond that for staying alive in zone(s) 5. I had it die to above graft unions after -31 F. Albeit my trees were probably 4 feet tall and they came back only 2" above, is still something to remark over. -26 F and it induces some damage, how much I don’t know. It’s 1/2 virginiana and 1/2 kaki and has 100% kaki morphology of the fruits. They are Astringent and when soft are ready to eat w/o astringency. Ohio is a great place to grow (any) persimmons whether potted or in-ground. You should consider Tam Tam Asian persimmons if you like crunchy persimmons. Grow them in pots.
I will eventually graft a Dar Sofiyivky outside in my easy-going 5b of IL. I’ll wait until I got a hell of a rootstock in place in the ground.
Those #'s from Europe or Asia in Celcius I’ve 100% found don’t match a Fahrenheiht # over here in the states and are several many degrees too warm. So if -24 C they say which is -11 F. You can definitely count it being more true in F to 3 degrees maybe more (sometimes) so -8 is more likely.
JT-02 is a miracle in genetics/persimmon breeding. Because of 90 chromosomes (that’s a lot I understand) things can happen. Shifting of chromosomes for hardiness onto a fruit that is Asian is what happened. It’s a medium size Asian persimmon with -25 F cold hardiness in the US Mid-west.
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I thought England’s had closed…
Am I incorrect in that belief?
Scott
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I am sure England is back providing budwood after health issues. Not sure about trees or other products.
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Yes scions only available for now, no tree sales to my understanding.
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He sells seeds and scion wood.
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I just purchased Kassandra scions from Cliff, so he has not closed, at least not fully.
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