Hybrid Persimmons Future Look Great


#221

Rossyanka is most productive among the hybrids and has a unique taste between Kaki and American persimmon with no issue of fruits drop and very cold hardy to -20F. It is a keeper. Nikita’s Gift is very tasty somewhat firm ripened fruits but not that cold hardy only to -8F with lots of top died back. The draw back on NG is that it tends to drop fruits like crazy and not as productive as Rossyanka. My 2 1/2 years old 6 1/2 feet tall Kasandra has not fruited yet but it is suppose to be a very good sweet tasting Kaki like in taste just like the Great Wall Kaki as one of the parent and crossed with the F2 Rossyanka male.

Tony


#222

The only hybrid I’ve tasted has been Nikita’s Gift. I have most of cliff’s hybrids and rosseyanka, but those have not fruited for me yet.


#223

A feller in KY I got to know thru a mutual friend sent Kasandra this year to me stating it’s his favorite of many.

Dax


#224

Cliff recommended sestronka to me for flavor, although not as cold hardy as kasandra and other hybrids. Good to know there’s a fan of kasandra out there!
I want to try growing jt-02 but the tree I received never leafed out. I hear great things about Jt-02, but a dead tree won’t help!
I enjoy Nikita’s gift a lot, but it is late ripening for me in nj for some reason. If other hybrids are better than Nikita’s, then I’m sure I’ll love them too!


#225

Did your JT-02 passed the green bark scratched test like Vicent Kaki that took 16 months to leafed out?

Tony


#226

Hi Tony, it did not pass the test. I was monitoring it closely. Cliff sent it to me, and it either didn’t survive the cold storage or transplant.


#227

Hi Tony, you state above that NG drops a lot of fruit and is not as productive as rosseyanka. Just wondering if you experience the same amount of fruit drop as I do from NG. Mine is still dropping fruit like crazy, and it’s mid/late July. I know I’ve lamented about this before on this site, but wondering if your statement above is based on personal experience as well.


#228

Tony, just wondering about the Spanish R/B is it doing anything for you? I think that it would be your best bet for container growing since it is easy to keep small.


#229

Yes, My Nikita’s Gift was 9 years old. I bought it from Burntridge Nursery. It fruited three years after I planted it. The tree had hundred of flowers and only hung on to 2 fruits that year. The fourth years it had 5 fruits. The 7th year I harvested 25 fruits. I topworked last year to JT-02, Kasandra, and Rossyanka. I left one branch of NG but it died back badly when the temp dropped to -8F without Winter protection. One gentleman told me to make a ring cut around the base of the trunk like a foot up to prevent fruits drop but I never come around to do it. You can you tube the video and see what you think.

Tony


#230

Thanks, Tony! I’ll likely do the same as you by topworking mine. I applied no fertilizer on the lawn this year, hoping for better NG results… but I think my results will only be marginally better. I have to get a hold of some jt-02 and rosseyanka scion wood for the NG multi-graft. I already have zima khurma, kasandra, and sestronka to graft onto it.


#231

We all have decay problems. The origin can be multiple and without explanation.
For me this year, it’s the H63A that problems for me, whether it’s grafted on khaki, virginiana or lotus. The rootstock isn’t always the cause.
So H63A who are gone… dead.
We have not only successes.


#232

Topworked a very large Nikita’s Gift to a Rossyanka in May. It took off to 4 feet tall in 2 1/2 months.

Tony


#233

Nikita’s gift seems like a winner! It dropped most of its figs which was a good thing since the tree was so small. But it appears to be keeping the remainder.

I will likely have a few to taste this fall! Can’t wait.


#234

How did you get figs on it? :slight_smile:


#235

Haha! I was just on the fig forum before making this post.


#236


#237

Yea ! But that is in centimeters.!

So … Say “31” centimeters ? ?
That’s like 12 or so inches…
So …
That is a " BIG " leaf
Wow !,!..
Good job. !


#238

New graft, Arhus?

I had a persimmon graft onto a 4’ sapling one year that took off like mad, beautiful 12" leaves…until a storm ripped the graft off :frowning:

It looked to be (in my case) not a cultivar thing, just the vigor of driving all they root into supporting a single 6" stick, but it looked very cool


#239

I’m eagerly looking forward to Nikita’s gift. It set almost 50 fruits on a second year tree but has dropped all but 8.


#240

Ramv,
Count your blessings :):grin:

I lost all 19.