Did you grow out some of the Tam Kam seeds that I crossed with Chocolate male flowers. The offspring leaves is real round and pretty. I got about ten of them going on second leaf.
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Yes, I have some in pots right now! Maybe some will be males that can be used in more crosses. Ideally, they’d be male and female so we know what the fruit is like too!
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I saw a Don Compton post once that walked you through hand pollination. He showed a picture of a mirror that he tapped the male pollen onto.
You could see the pollen in the picture.
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Has anyone got flower buds on Chuchupaka yet?
Mine flowered last year but it was in August! I removed the flowers.
This year I see no flowers on any of my trees. Some branches are over 5 feet tall.
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Hey Tony,
Recently I was talking with KYnuttrees and MattR about some breeding ideas. It’s fascinating stuff.
I know you were doing a bunch with JT-02 there for awhile, but then we had a bad winter. How are your JT-02 trees doing? Are they still going strong?
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Out of 20 JT-02 2 survived the Polar Vortex of -31F. Just regraft 10 this spring and
Will bury the graft union 6 inches below ground for insurance of resprouting.
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Oh wow.
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Do those two have damage? Or are the survivors completely undamaged?
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Survived without any damage. I dugged and potted them up for my new place next March.
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Male flowers produce ample pollen. The best way to collect it is following:
Come to the tree early in the morning before the bees are busy. Collect open male flowers in a small dish. Insert flowers (one at the time) in a small eppendorf tube and tap gently many times over some solid surface. Repeat with all the flowers…very soon you will see a good amount of pollen at the bottom of the epp. tube. No need to use magnifying glass. Than you can use it to pollinate many flowers.
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This makes a lot of sense! Thanks Pavel. Maybe the bees took most of it already by the time I got to the flowers. They seem very popular with the bees here.
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How do I get these!!!
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On the blue persimmon with redish orange flesh:
What is the cultivar name & who provides it?
Thanks
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Here are the Jerry Lehman Nikita’s Gift offspring male crossed with Prok large fruited American persimmon. They are looking good on 2nd leaf.
Here are the Tam Kam nonastringent Asian persimmon crossed with Chocolate Asian persimmon.
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@Barkslip . Since Jerry Lehman sent Us the Nikita’s Gift male offspring. He said it was an OP. Does Jerry has any Rossyanya male on his property or only American persimmon male tree. I am trying to figure it out if the OP male pollen is a Hybrid or just an American male pollen. IF I know the answer then I can do the math for the Asian and American percent of these Prok crossed seedlings.
Tony
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Hi Tony:
Costata x Male= (Rosseyanka X Virginiana) Rossey Male hybrid
(it’s hardy to -22 F)
There are only (2) of the males that Cliff England is using and Jerry used. Both are the same crosses. One is -12 hardy and the other being -22 hardy.
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I hoped We got the -22F hardy. I just hoped these ProK crossed got some Asian parentage in them for larger fruits and hardy enough for Z5.
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Is the buried union to get the variety to root, or just so some of it will stay warmer and can regrow from above the union?
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It will stayed warmer and can resprouted from the above the union.
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I have been looking for a reference that tells which persimmon varieties
are dioecious and which are parthenocarpic. Also if there is a reference that tells which varieties are self fertile vs requiring a pollinator that would be nice to have.
I read that “If parthenocarpic cultivars are pollinated, they will produce fruit that has seeds. Although the fruit may have a different flavor and texture from the seedless variety the tree normally produces, this is usually a good thing. Oriental persimmon parthenocarpic cultivars in particular produce greater quantities of larger fruit when pollinated, according to the National Gardening Association”.
I have been adding new cultivars to my existing trees and would like to know which would benefit from pollen from my chocolate tree. So if you are aware of such references please advise.
Dennis
Kent, wa
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