hopefully the budwood has at least grown/thickened considerably. Ours weren’t particularly precocious either. A r4t3 fruit picked in the right conditions attained 30+ brix, if remember it right. It is similar to turkish(aka priest) in sweetness and flavor. Priest has denser flesh, while that of r4t3 has a light crisp, like hj
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The graft has grown well this year. Not as much as Coco but it’s probably 18-24” and thick. Both on Lang. R4T3 had several fruitlets and one attained size to show shape well and then turned yellow. No fruitlets on Coco. Li graft on Lang has several fruit.
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What is the size and ripening season of priest(aka turkish)? It sounds delicious!!
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@PaulinKansas6b
Priest ripens mid season ANd it a nice fruit oblong longer than wide and crisp also
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i concur! 
here the fruits are about the size of a big sugarcane juju
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That is great! Priest is for sure on my list!! Maybe in a year…
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Raf
Can you compare the size, shape, texture, sweetness, productive, taste between Massandra Vs priest?
Tony
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i personally like priest better than massandra, but my assessment might not be accurate, since only had massandra ~2 yrs.
bought ‘massandra’ from ogw much earlier than that, but the fruits were shaped like sc, so that set me back additional years of waiting 
having obtained, >60 cultivars, have to say juju identity is contingent to whether or not the person labeling the specimens was drinking red bull.
or had vodka on-board, lol
anyway, going back to priest, got to hand it to them Turkish folks, they are probably the most underrated fruit-growers and fruit breeders. Jujus aren’t the only species they’ve dabbled in, but as many already are aware, apricots, cherries, and from what have seen online, they are even growing bananas!
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forgot to add though, priest, massandra, and r4t3 fruit development seem to be sensitive to our torrid summers, so best to delay their fruiting if growing them in desert areas, say, those desertsin cali, az, nm, and tx, apart from nv.
jujus bear fruits on same-year’s growth, so removing all their fruits in early summer will usually coax them to bear more fruits in late summer or early autumn.
Wow thats super interesting Raf!!! Sounds like Priest and r4t3 are must haves!!! Do you think they may do better in a cooler region like here in kansas than in your southwestern heat?
interesting thoughts for mislabeled plants 
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@jujubemulberry, I grow Norris #1 and R4T3, and both are fruiting for the first time this year. I was curious if you have any theories about which of the trees on @KYnuttrees list might be Norris #1, since you determined it isn’t R4T3. The fruit have a similar shape, with R4T3 perhaps a bit more pointed. Was flavor the main difference between the two for you?
Here is my Norris #1:
And here is my R4T3:
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@ncdabbler
I really can not commit much as I do not have the Norris # 1 I have made several attempts to purchase the selection and HSN will not sell us one SO to stop the confusion I have up loaded the 6 year long study That I did on the planting from the Norris river damn project that was planted in 1932 thru the TVA project
This in formation has been published and is on file for the public to see and is not copy written So I hope this helps but the ones you have look the same to be but there is a row 7 trees that I suspect is the same as the R4T3
Enjoy
Cliff
Jujube planting Norris Damn area #2.pdf (33.3 KB)
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My little La Fleur tree grafted this year.
A little R4T3 grafted this year.
And a Priest (Turkish) that isn’t as pretty but still alive and growing.
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if they prove to be productive in your area, then they are must-haves. Will later post a picture of priest at my thread so as not to derail the OP’s focus on r4t3 and r5t2
there is a huge flavor difference.
r4t3 at its prime is much better than norris(and many other jujus) by a country mile. They do look alike, especially when fruits are smaller, but you’re right, r4t3 tends to have pointy fruits(although may also have rounded tips), whereas norris#1 fruits are virtually all blunt-tipped. Anyway, had norris for a while but forgot where got it from, i think rollingriver or burntridge nursery. Will be posting photos later as well.
Hi Cliff, tempted to offer you a few twiggies but might not be worth your time as the fruits are not as good as r4t3, and have gotten them to fruit in cooler conditions(oct- nov here), but not much improvement in quality. Will send some your way if you’re interested, It should complete your norris dam juju vocabulary 
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Oops. Posted on wrong thread…
forgot to add, norris juju shapes seem to be influenced by weather as well, so this definitely adds to the uncertainty and confusion.
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I have believe that norris to be R2T2 but i am uncertain with out seeing the fruit and we lost r2t2 do to a brake out and bad planting site
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actually obtained our r2t2 from your nursery several years ago, tell me if you want to re-establish some budwood as well. Will post photo when i find it.
btw, norris1 is not the same as r2t2. Of course my claim is flimsily based on the norris that i obtained from another nursery. The trouble with jujus is that the would-be grower is only as credible as the sources of his/her budwood.
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My Norris #1 is directly from Hidden Springs Nursery. I’m curious how it compares to R4T3 here in humid NC. Maybe Norris #1 tastes better in this climate, but it’s good to hear from @jujubemulberry that R4T3 is a keeper. @KYnuttrees if you would like Norris #1 scionwood this winter, I can send you some.
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