Interesting side note. Burnt Ridge apparently considers M26 to be a dwarf rootstock. I’ve always considered it semi-dwarf. It’s free standing and can get well out of hand reach if allowed.
I noticed that when adding Lucy Rose to my cart, almost got M106 instead of preferred M26 because I didn’t even look at the dwarf category.
I think people considered M26 dwarf…(until Cornell/Cummins introduced the term simi-standard to the former ‘simi-dwarf’ MM106 and M111 trees.)
You do not have to permanently stake the M26? That’s what I had read/heard- M26 needs to be permanently staked throughout its life.
I’ve got dense soil. I’ve only ever had one tree lean over and I don’t know what rootstock it is. My full dwarf espaliers are supported. Otherwise, none of my trees are staked.
Gurney’s site lists both…but currently they have no inventory of any apple.
I ordered one from burnt ridge too. I was sad to see they only have them for next spring. I was really hoping to get its roots in the ground this fall. Oh well, patience in life I guess.
I have a graft of calypso red I hope takes off next spring. It would be fun to compare the 2 in a side by side grow off.
Burnt Ridge also had the New Zealand feijoas that I tried last fall and most didn’t make it. Looks like they plan to ship Jan or Feb. Hopefully this round will have a gentler late winter.
Wow, sounds like the cat is out of the bag. I wonder what this says for the commercial success of the apple, if anything. Did they give up and go for tree sales, or was it planned all along?
Alan, see, talking about club apples isn’t all a waste 
I bought a Lucy Glo tree from Gurneys today. I’m pretty excited. I’ve really enjoyed the apples I’ve had from the store and I’ve been wanting to get some red fleshed apples in the collection.
I checked a couple places they list as selling Lucy Glow apples and came up empty. I saw Gurney’s has both Glo and Rose… at Gurney’s prices… and I don’t know what dwarf rootstock they use. Burnt Ridge has Lucy Rose, but that one doesn’t sound particularly amazing.
I was thinking of getting Hidden Rose/Airlie scionwood this Winter before I saw Lucy Glo trees were available. A tree I graft myself might be fruiting in the same time as one from Gurney’s if they send a puny one.
How does Lucy Glo compare with HR as far as the red apple flavor coming through? How tart are they compared to a Pink Lady?
Thank you for posting. I stopped what I was doing and ordered one.
Yeah, I may even use the tree I ordered to graft onto one of my existing trees. I don’t really have room for another apple tree. I also found their rootstock selection very confusing. I wish they would list the rootstock they use.
I would say Lucy Glo is less tart than pink lady but hard to say by how much. I haven’t eaten either apple this year so I guess take what I say with a grain a salt. I also haven’t eaten any other red fleshed apples. But I found Lucy Glo to have an interesting complex flavor that I imagine is why people are excited about red fleshed apples. It also had a nice crisp texture. I’ve been looking in the stores, but haven’t seen them this year yet.
Pink lady is both relatively high acid and sugar. That’s also true for Lucy Glo. Pink Lady is a dense, hard apple, and Lucy Glo coarser fleshed and not as dense.
My impression has been that Lucy Glo won’t keep as well and will have a smaller window of balance of sweetness and good texture. I suspect it will be more on the tart side of balanced initially, then superb and balanced, then delicious more sweet than tart but on its way to being mealy.
That’s based on maybe 8 or 10 purchases in maybe 3 or 4 different seasons of Lucy Glo. It will be fun to grow and see how it varies for me.
I agree with what you say about their rootstocks, and also its not clear whether there is any difference at all between their “deluxe” and regular tree other than extra crap thrown in. I would pay the premium if I knew I was getting a larger root mass, healthier or larger tree. I don’t need the extra junk they throw in the box though, and I’d prefer they not prune it at all.
I found some locally-ish (15 minute drive to another state). Sweet Tango (top, never tried them), Lucy Rose (bottom left), Lucy Glo (bottom right)
Gurney’s uses G.41 for their dwarf trees.
I asked at ACN if they were going to start carrying them on a per tree royalty basis for home growers (there’s a yearly fee for commercial) after seeing they were listed on the Commercial side of the site in the Variety Spotlight section. They didn’t have any info plans to do that unfortunately. I asked about if it was particularly prone to any disease, and the answer was no, but that the tree tends to overbear and can go biennial if not thinned adequately, and that the fruit is prone to dropping at maturity. So that’s something to look out for.
Picked up Lucy Glo from Gurney’s and Lucy Rose from Burnt Ridge for spring.
I’m a massive fan of Lucy Glo and buy them constantly when in season. It’s been consistently good in stores and it’s definitely my favorite grocery store variety. There are better red-fleshed apples, but none so reliably good in flavor and texture. On the other hand, Lucy Rose is pretty disappointing. It rarely colors up well and is usually on the mealy side. But it’s got some nice berry flavor and the outside is absolutely beautiful. It’s also not tart at all, which is a negative to me but is unusual for the red-fleshed varieties, so that might be nice for the audience who doesn’t like sour as much.
Red-fleshed apples tend to do well where I am (the local Pink Pearls are stunning) so I’m hoping both these varieties do really well on my property. Lucy Rose seems like it might have potential in the right conditions, like a lot of the fussier heirloom red-fleshed varieties.
Anyone for sure if these are Airlie’s R.F. x o.p. or Honeycrisp x A.R.F.?
I think their marketing page indicated that Lucy Glo has Aerlie’s Red Flesh and Honeycrisp as parents. Flavor and texture seem consistent with that. It’s been a while, but I left with the impression that Lucy Rose may not have Honeycrisp as a parent.
I agree with Mer’s positions on the two varieties. But I did have some quite good Lucy Rose one year at least. And my wife doesn’t like tart.
Today I bought my first Lucy Glo of the season. They were from Chuck’s Produce. The place I first found them and posted here. $5.50/lb. More than $10 for 4 apples. After eating the first one, it was worth it. The quality of these were probably the best I’ve had, and the flesh was very red. Although I kind of like the mottled version too.
I got a bunch of other apples I like too though, including Lady Alice which I haven’t seen in a while.
I’ll assume Lucy Glo and Lucy Rose are full siblings until I hear something definitive to the contrary.
