interesting photos!
panzao seems like has the shape characteristics of chico and porterville. As remmeber from the few fruits from the graft that we lost, porterville seems to be more round and nody, while chico is rather flat like little squashes. Panzao has the squash-like stance but also has bumps and lobes
good luck on that Baby Red fruitlet, i hope it gets nursed to maturity so you could give us an assessment under TX conditions 
Well rooted sucker of âSweet Tartâ from @jujubemulberry
well it was actually from @castanea, then back to @castanea, by way of a pit stop in vegas 
and self-servingly i poached some root cuttings, one of which has demonstrated convincingly of perennation and perpetuation, thanks!
Nice find today. I pruned up a tree a lot this winter so we could mow under and around it. Decided I must have trimmed off an unlabeled graft of R4T3. đĽ˛
Found this today
it sure looks like it 
have lost tags myself and in the process i lost cultivar grafts when ended up grafting them over for being unlabeled.
Deep red, almost maroon, like venous blood!
Graft project 4/2/2022
Today
Note: Shotgun Louie. If The side by side is in use Louie is riding shotgun
This is an Autumn Beauty that is 4 years old. It has Not. One. Fruit. Alcalde #1 is the same. Hoping for a late flush.
OhâŚâŚand Baby Red update. It likes it here!
In your opinion the Autumn Beauty and Alcalde #1 is the same @k8tpayaso , @jujubemulberry , @BobVance .
Baby Red looks great and fruited early. On my wish list for next Spring.
The only difference I see is in the thorns in the trees. AB has spikes all over it all the time. Alcalde new branches will have a few spikes that soon disappear and I donât see many thorns at all. Usually Alcalde has been more productive but not this year.
Do Alcalde fruits taste similar to HJ or Sugarcane like in sweetness, crunch, and juice?
I donât think so. They are okay but I havenât been very impressed. And they certainly are not as productive.
Autumn Beauty is the Chinese cultivar Qiyuexian.
Alcalde #1 is the Chinese cultivar Qiyuexian.
Both reportedly have large high quality fruit that ripens very early.
That doesnât necessarily mean they are exactly the same though. Jujubes are known to produce sports. They could have some differences, but since they both have large high quality fruit that ripens early, I suspect any differences are small.
I have both trees but my Alcalde #1 has not yet produced fruit.
Within limits, thorns are a reflection of the age of the wood and the size of the tree. Younger wood on smaller trees is more likely to have more or larger thorns. Sugar Cane doesnât seem to follow this general rule though. It always has nasty thorns.
Autumn Beauty usually takes awhile to produce fruit and my Alcalde 1 is also taking its time. Autumn Beauty is not heavily productive.
Similar to Castanea, my Alcalde hasnât produced yet. But, based on Autumn beauty, it doesnât have the same crisp juicyness as Sugar Cane or Honey Jar. It isnât bad, but more mid-level from a texture perspective, at least as grown by me. I think the brix may be a few points lower as well, though thatâs hard to do an exact comparison on based on how ripe a particular fruit is. But, jujube are high enough brix that I donât think it is that big a worry and if you want large fruit, it isnât bad.
Anyone have several branches die over the winter? My Li at a rental lost several of itâs lower branches. Iâve now removed them and it will likely make it easier for me to mow under it, so it isnât all bad, but it would be good to know why it happened. I wouldnât think it is because of the cold, as the two trees next to it (a Honey Jar and a non-astringent persimmon, IKKJ) were completely fine. And NA persimmons are much less hardy than jujubes.
My jujubes are starting to flower now, so itâs time to give GA3 another try. Iâve done it before, but am not sure of the impact. In the past through, it was well into July though by the time I sprayed and Iâve been meaning to try it earlier.
Li:
Bok Jo:
I hoped you donât burned the flowers with too strong of the solution. Either you or @mamuang showed the burned flowers in the past.
That was Mamuang. I think she attributed it to spraying right before some 90+ degree days. I had a few flowers turn brown, but I think that can happen anyway when it is hot out and they arenât pollinated/setting. Another reason to spray earlierâŚitâs in the 70âs for the next 4 days here and the rest of the 10 day forecast is 81F.
You probably donât need to spray Bok Jo since you mentioned it set better than HJ.
Yup, it was me sprayed the evening followed by 90+ F for 3 days in a row. Flowers burned to crisp.
