I’m hoping the Nadia taste like a cherry (up-sized).
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If Nadia is more plum than cherry would it have been more appropriate to refer to it as a Pluerry then? Or is Pluerry just a term used to refer to Zeiger varieties? When I read dark red flesh I was hoping it had more cherry characteristics than plum.
Pluerry is I believe a trademark of Zaiger. So no one else can use that term.
Hopefully it has great flavor. For those wanting a sweet cherry flavor I hope that’s how it tastes. But I’d say it’s a plum that looks like a cherry and hopefully tastes like a cherry. If so then one could say it’s a cherry. But the flower buds, and tree for that matter, are 100% plum and zero percent cherry. To me that makes it a plum.
Cherry has a big bud that produces several flowers and fruit in a cluster. Plums have a small flower with one blossom and one fruit.
cherry:
Jap. Plum :
Comparison between sweet cherry and Japanese plum
inflorescence is the same only the buttons are smaller at plum
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I think what fruitnut meant was
Cherry - Multiple flowers/fruits per bud. The spur may contain multiple buds.
Plums - Single flower/fruit per bud. Again the spur may contain multiple buds.
I think it’s possible since Nadia is 50% cherry.
I could be wrong about J plums and pluots only having one flower per fruit bud. In Alcedo’s picture some buds look to have multiple flowers/fruit.
Both have have spurs with up to 20 flower buds.
Sweet cherry commonly has 2-4 fruit from one bud. Take that times 10-20 buds on a mature spur and the fruit can be packed on the limbs so tightly they are hard to pick. You can’t reach the base of the stem.
The idea is mice will overwinter in a wood chip pile. If it is an abnormally long winter food resources/hibernation reserves dwindle and the rodent rouses but it is still snow covered with no food within reach it may desperately eat the bark off your tree if that is all that is available. So pulling mulch a foot away from the trunk (which in most areas is good practice anyway to avoid rots in warmer times) and they cannot under the snow get to the trunk. So they are forced to exit and look for food in the open easy pickings for hungry predators.
When I was out spraying today I noticed the same thing about nadia. The fruiting structure is very much plum. Doesnt give me much hope of any cherry like flavor. I fear that what we are going to have is a small plum…which doesnt appeal to me at all. But will shall see soon. Im been pleasantly surprised about how much fruiting wood it has made. Should have at least a nice small crop this year.
I think the patent (link in post #18 of this thread) gives good reason to hope. The listed brix is 20-24, which is way over most plums. It is even over most pluots.
For example, I looked at some past posts and Fruitnut grows a 28 brix flavor supreme, while the patent says 17. He’s grown Emerald Beaut at 26 and the patent says 16.
Even if I can’t get 10 points higher than patents like Fruitnut (34?? That would be crazy…), I would still be very happy in the 20-24 range. Most of my plums are in the 15-17 range, so this would be a real step up.
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I wonder if Nadia’s parentage is a true plum x cherry hybrid, as stated on the patent, or maybe it was selected from many generations of plum x cherry hybrid.
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Or maybe it’s simple genectics, the plum genes are dominant over the cherry genes.
Take my peach x almond hybrid for example. The seed parent is an F1 Nonpareil Almond and the pollen parent is the Elberta peach. And yet, the leaves and flower buds resemble more like the peach pollen parent than the almond seed parent. This indicates that the peach genes are dominant over the almond genes.
Picture number one: is the seed parent, my proprietary F1 Nonpareil Almond:
Picture Number two is a peach seedling of Elberta peach:
Picture number three: My proprietary peach x almond hybrid.
I’m not that concerned, the East Malling Institute was highly interested in the fruit for further crossings, that is a highly respected breeding program in the UK. Having produced numerous fruits. They praised the fruit, it is the only reason i bought it.
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I wonder why there is no information on the taste of this plum? Has anyone tasted or even read about the taste of the Nadia?
Yes, more like a cherry than any other interspecific so far. That is what I have read. Although it means nothing. Other factors might determine taste, location, age of tree etc. Some of us will get fruit this summer.
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Since I live in the West Coast, and fruits ripen here first, I’ll be one of the first ones to taste Nadia Cherryplum.
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Oh man you just jinxed yourself big-time!
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The latest version of Raintree catalog has the picture of Nadia, but not on their website. It does look a lot like a small plum on it.
Go to a few posts down from the top of this thread to see a photo I posted where it certainly looks like a giant cherry.
I’m going to place it inside my greenhouse so I could speed up the ripening process.