Darrell, older pecan trees that are 100 meters tall are not necessary.
A pecan tree, 25 or 30 meters high, has to be a fucking spectacle.
They are productive, if in the tenth year a tree produces around 20 kilos of nuts, it is an extraordinary production…
I don’t need a ton of trees, with 20 or 25 trees of the different suitable varieties in my orchard , I will be the happiest guy in the world.
Regards
Jose
You mean an extinct species of pecan? That would be a sight for sure, though I’d not want to be picnicking under one during nut fall…
Looked up the tallest on record isn’t much more than 100 feet , so I’d down my estimate of the older trees in my state to 80 or so feet. Without flying my drone it’s harder to judge by gut.
Shibumi, pecan trees have been cut for timber over the last 200 years. Older and taller trees were cut first. The current world record is not the tallest on record.
Just to be curious, is there seedlings who make smallest trees? Like M9 or M106 for apple for example.
vince11, There are no dwarf pecans. Cheyenne is the closest I know of, but it still gets large over time. Pecan Cultivars-Cheyenne
A recent UGA release is also a smaller tree but still not a true dwarf.
https://pecanbreeding.uga.edu/cultivars/alphabetical-list/tom.html
Darrell the pecan tree , is like a good acorn-fed Iberian ham, the bigger the better hahahahaha.
Regards
Jose
Ok thank you Darrel!
Cool. I struck out in my brief internet search. I’m interested in such things…
I found those guys yesterday: England's Orchard and Nursery, alternative cash crop specialists
They ship scionwood to Europe. Their list is a mess to read but they have Hark, Kanza and lakota wich is great for me!
Darrel is Major could be an option for me? I can’t find information about scab on this variety.
Thank you!!!
Sorry Vince, but “no.”
I am good friends with Cliff England, and “Yes”, he can send grafting material to Europe, with a USDA plant passport.
So far so good, but in order for you to pick up the package, you need to have authorization from your Ministry of Agriculture, as an importer of plant material, and it also entails more setbacks, since imagine that you got authorization as an importer of plant material, you would be exposed to visits by the plant authority (in Spain it is SEPRONA), to inspect your garden whenever they want.
The only way, as I already told you, is through ordinary postal mail.
Regards
Jose
ohhhh Too bad… I thought i found the graal… So i’m going back to step 1 
Thank you José!
Major has industrial strength scab resistance. It is one parent of Kanza and Lakota. It is a very cold tolerant variety often used as rootstock for northern and far northern locations. IMO, it would be viable to grow in your climate, but the varieties I listed above are better choices.
Vince, from the list of varieties suitable for you, that are these:
Adams #5
Amling
hark
Kanza
Lakota
Oswego
At least two varieties, are very interesting for me:
Since I am going to have rootstock available , and if I am lucky and the cuttings arrive in Spain without problems, I have no problem grafting a tree of these two varieties for you.
Regards
Jose
Thank you Darrel for the infos about Major.
Thank you so much for your offer José! That’s so nice! Anyway Ramon told me that he will sell me some rootstock so it would be easier to do it myself if i can have the scion wood… I have someone in the usa to receive the package and send it to me but i don’t know if william Reid (for example) will be ok…
About the variety william Reid has Hark, kanza lakota and oswego. I’m looking for Amling who seems to be very nice and could be a perfect match with Kanza lakota and hark but can’t find it… And i would like to learn how to graft it I never tried the 3/4 flap…
José i wanted to ask you where did you bought that kind of tube you used for your graft to make a small green house (i saw that on another thread) who seems to be very helpfull!
Thanks again for your offer José! I would like to try to do it by myself at first and if it’s not working it could be very nice
Amling is available from several nurseries including rockbridgetrees and basspecan. I have a fair sized Amling tree and plan to collect scionwood in February.
I should probably post a few thoughts about the trees at Auburn’s EV Smith research farm which has about 700 trees of about 80 varieties (some are patented, others are test trees from USDA breeding program) of which about 50 are available to collect scionwood.
I collected pecans of 7 varieties with permission from the farm director. I observed a lot of stressed trees under heavy disease pressure, mostly scab, but some zonate leaf spot, powdery mildew, and others. When I asked, I was told the trees were not sprayed for insects and/or diseases this year and they were not fertilized. So what did I see among the trees?
Amling was very healthy with a very good crop. It is normally a shy bearer but as it gets older tends to produce more heavily. I upped my rating for Amling based on health and production with no inputs. Amling’s only significant negative is that nuts are about 60 per pound which is medium size.
Adams #5 was ditto with Amling. Heavy production, no disease problems, only negative is nut size running about 70 or 80 per pound.
Elliott had a very heavy crop but also had significant foliage disease problems. Elliott is known as a very scab resistant variety so when it gets scab, there will be problems long term. Nut quality is excellent. Elliott is also known for having very short winter dormancy breaking buds after about 250 chilling hours. It is also one of the best rootstock varieties in just about all soil conditions including calcareous soils.
Apalachee had a moderate crop, significant foliage problems, and small nuts 80 to 90 per pound. Based on what I saw, the tree is crowded which is reducing performance.
Lakota is about 30 or 40 trees of which many are older trees and several more are 7 years old planted in 2017. I was thoroughly surprised how much of a crop the young trees made. Foliage health was not as good as I would like but was enough to produce a crop. Older trees had little or no crop this year due to overbearing last year.
Kanza had a moderate crop after a heavy crop last year. I collected 30 pounds of Kanza. Foliage was somewhat affected by scab.
Syrup Mill was a pleasant surprise with a very good crop of large good flavored nuts. Foliage health was good though with some signs of scab.
Overall, most trees showed varying levels of scab defoliation and all showed lack of fertilizer. Some trees were almost defoliated by scab.
Rock bridge send me a mail, he just refresh his list this morning for next season so i think i’ll take scion wood to him but he doesn t have Hark. Nothing is perfect but i’m on the good way
Thanks for sharing infos of your visit it must have been very interesting!
Hi Vince.
Despite the pecan tree’s reputation as a “difficult” graft, I assure you that it is child’s play compared to grafting pistachio onto the pistacea terebinthus rootstock (the latter is difficult, sometimes even for me).
Grafting the pecan tree using the 3 flap system is child’s play, and highly successful, if you follow the advice that I will give you.
First of all, watch this video many times (you don’t need to know English, since visually it is completely explanatory).
As you can see, it is not a grafting technique that requires extreme precision.
Now you must follow these tips:
The graft is carried out in spring (approximately in the month of April in our area), when the rootstock is very vigorous (already with leaves and strong sap rise).
The rootstocks must be well watered, so that when the cuts are made, the cambium of the flaps easily detaches from the wood.
Absolutely mandatory, that the caliber of the rootstock and the cutting are identical at the grafting point
The pecan tree graft is extremely sensitive to solar radiation and sudden changes in temperature (like the pistachio)
The use of a microperforated fruit trees protective tube of about 60-70 cm is completely mandatory, for the two reasons mentioned, protection from solar radiation (in the United States aluminum foil is used to protect the grafting point, but the tube is infinitely better), and the inside stabilization of the temperature avoiding sudden changes inside the tube, since it acts as a mini-greenhouse
For experts this advice is not necessary, but for you it is, since when you make the bevels on the pecan tree cutting, the wood oxidizes in contact with the air at lightning speed, so I advise you to have a glass with water and when making bevels you put the cutting into the water, and once you have prepared the rootstock, just take the cutting out of the water, shake it to remove excess water and carry out the graft.
As you can see in the video, you don’t need special materials, just some elastic bands and a roll of agricultural parafilm.
It is a very easy and very satisfactory grafting system.
What the hell, I can’t find any agricultural website in France that has 70 cm micro-perforated agricultural tubes, in my town I can buy them in several establishments by units, and their price is about €0.50 per unit.
They are like these
https://www.tienda.sercopag.com/producto/protectores-de-plantas-tubos-invernaderos/
I’ll send you a private message and I’ll send them to you from Spain (the amount you need).
Regards
Jose
I think that i never found on the internet people more helpfull than on this forum
I already saw this video, it’s very well made!!! And thanks for the tips
For the tubes i can’t find some neither… I think it can be usefull for wallnuts too… Maybe i can buy some when i’ll go to Girona buying rootstock…
Thank you once again!
Vince I forgot a small detail
Regards
Jose