Persimmons 2024

I still see japanese beetles, but they don’t necessarily stink like a stinkbug. Possible the smell comes from him being sick? Or what he ate?

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Had a Barbara’s Blush that dropped yesterday. Very bland, very disappointing. No astringency. Last year’s Proks were mild, but they blew away this BB. That was my first taste of BB. Hoping they really improve as the season goes on.
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The pollinated seeds (4 of them, not in the picture) were very large.

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I didn’t see them but health issues kept me out of the yard much of this year.

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That seems very early for that for 6B. Hopefully your later ones are much better.

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I also had some unripe fruit drop from my adstringent kaki that I normally harvest between mid-October and mid-November, depending on temperature. I tasted one that fell the day before and was getting a little softer. Surprisingly, it was rather sweet with only mild adstringency. I guess, it had been slowly tearing off since we haven’t had any windy weather for a week.


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I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions based on a fruit that drops this early. A fruit that looks ripe but falls early is probably damaged in some way.

Anyway, I’ve tasted BB from two trees. It is very good. Definitely not bland. So be patient.

Also, as I recall from my crop last year, BB tends to hang on the tree pretty well. It may be a bad sign for that fruit that it dropped early.

Edit: Here’re two pics of Dollywood. Notice that one fruit is ripening while others remain green. When I tugged the fruit, it separated easily. Splitting it, it looks damaged. And it didn’t taste great – not really worth eating. That’s not whet I expect from the remaining fruits.

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@randyks

I’m hoping you feel better soon. These health issues get in the way of our plans. Your not that far away from us. @39thparallel orchard is worth seeing this time of year.

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@clarkinks We could probably learn a lot from @randyks he has been growing rare fruit here for a long time. I think he has had some success with interspecific Stone fruit. @randyks what varieties of persimmon have you seen do well in Kansas?

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My Soshu is turning red…

While my Taishu is still green…

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We have two Nikita’s Gift and one Saijo, zone 8A.

Both young like the rest of our trees so no fruit yet. All three purchased from TOA.

To be honest, I didn’t care for the fuyu or hatchiya persimmon fruit I tried from stores.

I intend to dry them if I don’t like the fruit fresh.

I read you can pick them still astringent and dry them and I thought that might save them from critter bandits.

Such pretty Fruit I love the color.

Don’t sell yourself short, you had the most organized production nursery I’d seen when I visited about 10? years ago! I first tried out Cliff England’s recommendation of about 8 different asian and hybrid persimmons in 1996/1997. Small sizes, most didn’t survive the first winter. I think they should have been planted earlier in the year-March, for a better chance. 6’ tall out of the box Kasandra and Mikkusa established quickly, had no dieback after the 20° below week winter of 2022. Rosseyanka died at 3 years old after late frost of spring, 2007.
All the apricot x plum hybrids bloomed so early when I covered them I got the most delicious fruit ever. High sugars and flavor in our heat. I think an unheated high-tunnel for late cold snap protection would work perfectly. To much work for me, anymore…:smile:

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Still no persimmons for me this year. I was hopeful some would stick, but the blossoms all dropped without setting fruit. Here’s to next year!

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I have two fuyu persimmon trees close to each other. Will having two of them cause them to have seeds in them? Would seeds lower the eating quality of the fruit, or are seeds edible and not that noticeable?

Thanks

Fuyu is a female tree I believe. No male flower so there should not be any seeds at all.

Tony

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Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.

Picked up the JT-02 from Buzz yesterday. Looks happy and healthy.

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I’m anxiously awaiting the ripening of my Honan Red X Rossy male hybrid persimmon. It is about a 4-foot tall potted tree that is clinging to 5 persimmons when all the other potted persimmons have dropped their fruit, except a single fruit left on my Inchon.

This is one of several trees I have in pots to see if they have what it takes to earn a limited spot in my yard. So far I’m very impressed with the tree, although it is very susceptible to mouse ear disease which I hope it will avoid if planted in ground instead of container grown.

Here is a ripe Prok held next to one of the fruit still on the tree for comparison. They are fairly good size, probably about 100 grams each, and I’d expect they would be bigger on a larger in ground tree.

If it tastes good I’ll definitely plant it out and get it growing out, but I know it is hard to tell year to year on taste so if it is less than spectacular I’ll at least give it another year or 2 to prove itself. I’m particularly pleased with how well it has held its fruit compared to the other hybrids and kaki I have in containers that set this year.

The original tree is from Dax with scion from Cliff. I’m not really in a good place to test cold hardiness, but I believe it has survived well at Cliff’s place at least.

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How is the one from Tony doing? Mine took some serious deer damage and not sure if it will come back next year.

My partner’s beloved grandmother just turned 99. I found a non-astringent persimmon cultivar that shares her Cantonese name and is hardy in our zone and planted it at her parents house earlier today. Her mom (the grandma’s daughter) seems pleased.

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