Has anybody come with a reliable way to tell is an asian persimmon is pollinated without cutting it in half?
I’ve only opened 2 from premature Coffee cake dropping, but it won’t be caved in at the bottom if it’s at least half filled with seeds.
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Pretty cool OneGreenWorld shipped me a pollinated A-33. Gotta keep burying that graft union deeper for zone 4b (I hope to do at least 4" deep). (They also shipped me Cornelian Dogwood with little developing fruit. I don’t remember seeing a developing persimmon when I planted this thing.)
Anyone think I should cull the fruit to enhance growth and survival for Zone 4b? That’s a really small caliper and I’m really worried I won’t have the graft union buried very deep on its nothing-special seedling rootstock.
@EliindaUP no winters yet on this tree, so it won’t count as beating you to the first zone 4 fruit.
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It may self cull. In any event I would just to let the plant concentrate on root growth.
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I would for sure. OGW sent me an H-118 back in 2023 that had a couple fruit that I immediately culled. It is one of the better growing persimmons I have, finally attaining 5’ this season. The graft came very close to dieing the first winter, but all the survivors pretty much do that their first year or two.
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Thank you @CarolinaZone and @EliindaUP for writing back to this novice and convincing me to remove the fruit.
It was only in the “very astringent, sticks to your throat and makes you cough” stage of development based on my taste test. 
Thank you to @Trav for suggesting slowly adding an inch at a time to cover the grafts until they are at least 4 in deep. I’m going to work adding the second inch tomorrow.
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I just had a similar experience with mine from them as well, it was delivered directly in the middle of a heat wave so sadly it arrived completely defoliated but it was interesting seeing all the fruits on it. I’m surprised how vigorous it was though because it already sprung back with all new leaves like nothing even happened and I just planted it about 2 weeks ago. Excited to see how yours is doing after more time, these seem insanely precocious!
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I am in Portugal and I planted an O’gosho this spring. In the last couple of weeks the leaves have started to show this. Anyone can tell me if this is a lack of some nutrient/ water or some fungus/disease?
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Hi. Too hot and lack of water. I was able to stop this with more water.
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Thank you @Luisport. I also thought it could be that, but wanted to make sure it wasnt any deadly fungus, at least. Nothing to worry too much about then.
Thanks
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One tree or scion can die fast on this. On One tree i got scions getting like this, but i was able to stop. Lets see if its sufficient.
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This looks basically the same as Sudden Kaki Death Syndrome (KSDS), which infects and is tolerated by D. Virginiana but kills D. Kaki and hybrids. I’m not saying that it definitely is KSDS. I’m just saying that if your rootstock is DV, then KSDS is a possible diagnosis.
I imagine that many issues manifest in this way so there are other possibilities.
FWIW, I have a formerly healthy Nikita’s Gift that has foliage just like this. It isn’t especially hot here and the tree is well watered. It had grown well since I grafted it 2 years ago; but started to show symptoms this year. See picture of leaf below.
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It was a bought tree and I think they graft it on D. lotus but I am not sure. Thank you for the input. I will keep an eye on the tree.
How does the tip of the branches look like?
I ll take a photo when I go there again
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Rats….. my Cardinal asian (in year 3) did a late (mid July) fruit drop. Dumped all but 1 fruit. Oh well.. I hope it hangs on.
I checked my other trees that are holding fruit and none of them dropped any.
Most of my persimmon fruit drop happens mid to late May here.
TNHunter
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I had a coffee cake drop last week. I thought that was odd as I’m about a month away from picking.
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I started with 25 fruit on my 2.5 year Fuyu tree. I’m down to 5 as of this morning.
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The first picture is from June 8th, the second is from yesterday. this was a Nikita’s gift that couldn’t handle a hard winter here with temperatures hitting -16F at one point and being overall quite a brutal winter for this area. I already plan to graft it next spring to probably Kassandra or maybe JT-02. It’s cool to see it pushed about 42 inches of growth in that taller sucker in such little time. At what point would you guys suggest I remove the shorter sucker? Trying to maximize survival rate but given those are plain old American persimmon, I doubt they will be bothered by anything my area can throw at them.
Also had a Rossyanka from the same place (Chestnut Hill Nursery) but that was also killed entirely to the roots. Thought these would be hardy enough but apparently not. I already have 2 more Rossyanka in the ground but mainly just because I got them very cheap and plan to top work at least one.
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