Questions not deserving of a whole thread


Scott intends to try it this year.


The studies I have seen show no effectiveness at all. Pyganic is about the only cheap organic option for just a few trees. Venerate is experimental and not yet available in smaller quantities.


Thanks for the replies! I’ve considered Pyganic but I’m not a fan of using pyrethrin/pyrethroids due to them being extremely toxic to cats, which I have. Even just getting some on my arm or clothes or shoes and them rubbing on that and then licking their fur can be dangerous to them. Maybe I should just suck it up and get the Surround lol.


I linked to a small quantity source above.


Check to see if any Fertrell locations in your area can get a bag for you.


I’ve ordered my from out of state every time.

Suck it up. Use Surround and adjust your expectation that your may not get all perfect fruit but your cat will forever love you :heart_eyes:


I have an asian persimmon growing in pot from last year and it’s leaving out now and there are some flower buds too.

I want to transfer to the ground. Should I transfer now or wait until end of the month when it’s warmer? I am located at New York City, zone 7a/b.



do you have leaves already? If the persimmon already has growth for the year, it is highly likely that that growth will get burned back. If the plant has its current growth burned back by the cold numerous times, it will significantly set the tree back during the year you want it to establish into the ground.

I’m in a very similar climate. I won’t even move plants out, some with no current growth (still dormant) and some with awakening growth, for another few weeks at least.

Your date for last frost is still some weeks away. Give it time…

Of course, that’s just my opinion.



Thanks for the advise. The young tree already has leaves. I will take your advise and wait until it’s warmer.



Yesterday I looked at my young Red Astrachan apple tree and I noticed that one bud had a drop of amber liquid on it. I looked more closely and it appeared that the drop was some sort of wound liquid. It was very runny and not sticky and fell right off when I touched the bud.

There was a small hole in the bud. I broke it off since it was growing inward against the wall anyway. When I opened it up it looked like this on the inside:
There was one more bud with a hole but I let it be since it’s at the tip of a branch. This hole was bigger but dry, with no sap at all.
I looked at it again today and saw that there’s a hole in a third bud.

Additionally I saw a hole on a bud of the Piros apple tree as well! This hole is even bigger and more noticeable.
These trees are at least 200 m apart so there has to be some sort of bug that eats the buds on apple trees! Until now no damage on other kind of trees.

Now my questions:

  1. Any idea what that could be?
  2. Any idea what I could do?
    The Red Astrachan was only planted in fall 2018. It would be sad if that would damage him. I’m afraid that the damaged buds will lead to stunted growth or crippled branches next year…


Leafrollers esp, prebloom leafrollers?


Thanks, I’ll research these!


I have an Asian pear on OHxF87 that has pretty much runted out. I had it in a pot at first after bench grafting and rodents almost completely girdled it the first winter when I stored it in the garage. It recovered, but probably because of the damage it went completely fruitful. I put it in the ground last Spring and it set a bunch of fruit that I cut off and this year it seems determined to do it again.

I was hoping that once it settled in and mostly healed from the damage it would start growing again, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I don’t want a huge tree, but this is ridiculous. It is less than 3ft tall. I’m tempted to cut everything off except one growing leaf bud near the top and hit it with some fertilizer. Is that a viable plan?


My brain thinks your on the right track. I would however notch above a dormant bud lower down the trunk to start it developing. Once it does I would cut the main branch off so this would establish a new central leader.

But honestly I think you should just leave it be stake it well and enjoy the fruit this year while planning its replacement next fall.


A few thoughts on this:
1)If you look further into the bud do you find a tunnel deeper into the wood? Might even find a little worm in there.
2) any chance this damage occurred last year?
3) I think I’ve seen damage like this when PCs and other pests start to wake up. First thing they do is start to nibble on the emerging buds. What zone are you in?


Plum curculio usually emerge about the same time fruit is formed. They don’t munch on flower buds. They bite fruitlets and lay eggs.

There are all kinds of leafrollers that hatch about the time leaves and flower buds start to push.


If I were you, I would remove all flower clusters and direct the tree’s emergy to growing wood.

Think about what kind of a tree structure you want and remove some branches as needed.

You can push growth with fertilizer but be careful. Too fast growth makes a pear tree vulnerable to fire blight in our area. Removing flower buds will help eliminate fire blight entries, too. They often enter through flowers when a condition is conducive.

  1. I could not look at the bud very well since it was at an angle against the wall but I’ll look again tomorrow. Worm hunt!
  2. no the damage has to be fresh since my family and I walk by this tree all the time, so it would be almost impossible to not notice for fruit tree fanatics like my mother and I :grin:
  3. Technically z6, but since I’m at quite the elevation compared to the midlands of Switzerland I think of it as z5.


Strange question for the forum…

I usually have hundreds of crocuses which bloom in the spring. This year I have only had a few (like seriously less than a dozen) bloom. I’m also not seeing crocuses blooming in neighbors yards. Anyone else not seeing their crocuses this spring?



Chipmunks dug up my crocus bulbs within 24 hours of my planting them last fall?