i actually doubt that. if anything its just been put in a basket temporarily and not grown there.
homedepot says it can be grown in hanging baskets. it probably just needs a ridiculous amount of pruning.
This is what I figured, although it led me down a rabbit hole of watching head training videos.
yeah i just dont see how theyd risk false marketing for something stupid
It is technically possible to create bonsai grapevines if you use the techniques those growers use. It’s not practical or common for the same reason bonsai trees aren’t that common. It takes a bit of skill and lots of patience. That’s not what is pictured here though. What seems to be pictured is a one or two year old plant in a pot with a new growth flush. That’s a very temporary situation, just like a puppy becomes a dog. Grapevines in pots either will get huge quickly, which causes water/nutrient issues in a pot or turn stunted, barely produce any fruit, and look raggedy. I actually keep more than a few grapevines in pots, but that’s for a special reason. I only want a few flower clusters from each plant per year for pollen to make hybrids. I typically get one to four fruit clusters per year from a potted vine. The vines also usually look ragged. Not nice and lush. If I let them get too big they can pull all the water out of the soil in the pot in a single hot afternoon and then wilt and drop all the leaves very quickly. Definitely not a recommended method if you want a meaningful amount of fruit.
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In the are muscadines musty thread, there was a video about razzmatazz, and the lady in the video grew it in hanging baskets and a similar pot. Seems like it was real. @TNHunter posted
Are muscadines musky flavored like black currants?
This video:
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Just found that as well. But, to @SethDoty point, in that video they look like 1 yo vines that have never been pruned.
I agree, little tiny thumb sized vine. But if that wasn’t loaded up with fruit my eyes are not working anymore.
If someone wants to play with potted vines, enjoy, no harm done. Sometimes playing around with stuff is a great way to learn! Just don’t be too surprised if the results are not what one might hope, especially after the second season or so.
I think the video is implying zone pushing as the reason. Not a superior way to grow. Also, 9/10 new homes around here have postage stamp sized back yards. Hanging grape basket is better than a fake plastic tree. lol.
But I am with you, seems a bit of a novelty. Either way it also seems possible with some extra work that all trees in pots have. Drying and wet feet to be the first problems to come to mind.
Sounds like @TNHunter is planning to let it rip. It will be interesting to see his results.
That could be one reason to do pots certainly. However, on a backyard scale, if you are worried about cold hardiness, you can lay the trunk down on the ground every winter, after pruning is done, and cover with earth or hay bales. You dig it up in the spring, and re attach it to the trellis.You have to renew the trunks from suckers near the base every third year or so in order for them to stay flexible enough to lay down on the ground, but it’s a highly effective method. Using methods like that, even very cold tender vines like pure vinifera can survive in extremely cold areas such as Minnesota. As long as you have enough season length to ripen the fruit, and are willing to bury the vines, cold damage is not a concern. Of course, on a vineyard scale, burying all the vines every winter is a huge hassle, but for a vine or two in the backyard, not so much.
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This particular photo, there is no reflection of the grapes from the top of the pillar. If this reflection were true, in my opinion, you should be able to see the hanging basket in the reflection on the table as well.
I think in this specific photo, the grapes are photoshopped judging by how they look in comparison to the rest of the photo and the original photo is very blurry when zoomed in.
Plus the quality of the hanging grapes in the basket look similar to the typical photoshopped photos that other fake internet plant stuff put out.
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This may be silly but are the grapes mirror images of each other?
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Good catch
That top leaf near the hook is looking like the same plant mirrored. Crazy.
i did find a study of growing grapes in baskets. it does seem the photo is somewhat shopped but i doubt the concept is impossible or they wouldnt advertise it. its just asking to be sued
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I am going to give this a try… and see how it does. I will give it some trellis for support.
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Just like the hanging baskets were photoshop duplicated, these pictures are the same plant photoshopped to different backgrounds.
I’m mostly just miffed that Gurneys couldn’t pay someone to make less obviously fake pictures.
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@SethDoty do you have any strong opinions about head trained vines? Either spur or cane pruned? I watched too many videos and became enthralled and interested in trying with a razzmatazz. As a complete experiment- I don’t know that anyone in the family even likes muscadines (I don’t), just looks fun to maybe mess around and see what I learn. But, would love your opinion.
Most training systems can work fine under the right conditions. Head training, at least, for bunch grapes, is generally done on low vigour locations where the vine isn’t going to grow very strongly. If you try to head train on a vigorous site, you generally end up with a shaded, tangled mess, trailing on the ground all around. Not what you want to see in head training. I’ve not ever seen head training done for muscadine because they are usually way too vigorous for that system to work well. Cane pruning I tend to like for bunch grape, largely because it reduces the number of pruning wounds for trunk diseases to enter compared to spur pruning and cordons. Some varieties actually need it to be productive. Both spur and cane pruning work for many varieties though. I haven’t seen cane pruning used for a mature muscadine vine, but it could probably be used, as long as you left enough canes to match the vigour of the plant.
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