I have tasted Monez and liked it. Like most, you need to not jump at the fruit as soon as they turn red. As the fruits tend to be under leaves, the little bit of shade can even trick you into thinking they are darker than they are.
Mine came from Cliff. It is allegedly on a yellow autumn olive that he likes the taste of, but I haven’t seen any basal sprouts of any kind and don’t recall which one.
Have you had any other goumi to compare Monez to?
A qualified yes. I also grow red gem and sweet scarlet. I like Monez better. I have had Carmine and some unnamed (or non-identified) seedling fruit at various nurseries of a similar size. My palate does not give me a huge difference in the flavors of ripe fruits of that size straight from the bush. All of them have less “pucker-power” than autumn olive if you get one that is not yet ideally ripe.
I’m curious about Sunrise Ruby, but not curious enough this year for the current price tage even though the shipping description suggests it is well priced.
I have a couple of grafts of Pippi and Carmine growing, but not to fruiting size yet. I have a Carmine growing where I work that will likely fruit next year, if the landscapers don’t run over it like they keep doing to my blueberries there.
The birds have not yet shown a lot of interest in any of my elaeagnus, and my autumn olives gave me thousands of fruit this year. The smaller honey-bee shaped bees love the flowers.
Editing in a PS. To the extent that I could recall the flavors to compare, I do think I liked Moniz a shade better than Carmine and the Seedlings, but Moniz was also my first goumi, and was my most mature plant. It was hanging over my shoulder as I drove home like a retriever. 
Thank you for the additional information! I might take a try at grafting Monez if England’s Orchard has the scions available.
He appears to have had itthe longest in the US, with an effort to make it available.
I should add that I saw fewer fruit on it than my others this year, but then, they have had a year or two headstart in my yard, so that may be down to transplant shock. The seeds in the larger ones are more noticeable than in the smaller ones and their size makes the woodiness a more obvious feature. Still quite edible and probably easier to spit out (or cut out).
Does anyone know anything about these cultivars?
I have Moniz and rather like the flavor. Size is comparable to Carmine.
I believe Wang Bo is the same as Daiougoumi, out of Korea.It’s been discussed here in GF recently.
I found one Belgian site that indicates Chorus is a Ukrainian variety, but does give any description of it.
Sherwood named for Sherwood Aikens out of Louisiana.
Hidden Springs is presumably named after the nursery in TN. Sounds to be a little bigger than the longer-standing US cultivars.
That’s about all I have found.
this is outstanding post – thanks for Fishinjunky’s June 2023 post – Lucile is a gem and the Tillamook is king!
here’s my Tillamook after two years. thanks Lucile! (1:37)
@usc33 ‘Sweet Scarlet’ isn’t small because of overproducing or pruning. It will always be a smaller fruit.
yup, you’re correct, the Sweet Scarlet produces a smaller fruit than the Tillamook. But my context was that that year, the Sweet Scarlet’s fruit was smaller than in prior years. It produced a “billion” fruit last yr, 2024. The fruit was smaller than ever, and way smaller than the Tillamook.
i just checked your website for new stuff. seems like your selection has … blossomed! see you found the Fukis.
So … where’s the Pippi in the scheme of sizes? And the Carmine is the Tillamook, no!!! burnt orchard should have left that alone (my opinion).
Hey, did you find me any new types of Aralia cordata besides the ‘Sun King’?
i’m looking for both, Aralia racemose and Aralia cordata. Aralia racemose is a complete homerun and heavily un-utilized.
Introducing ‘Pippi’ Goumi Berries
I think that Pippi has fruit that are a bit larger than Carmine/Tillamook.
just read Introducing 'Pippi' Goumi Berries. Bigger than the Tillamook? i’d have a great home in Maryland for a Pippi. I gave the Tillamook a heck of a bump (ask Lucile) … and this "Pippi character’ is my kinda gal!
Ever hear of the Daiougoumi, Elaeagnus multiflora. Do i need to fly to Japan to buy one!?!?!?
yup, that’s what the article said. i wonder if it maintained a lead over time and if it’s true. Tillamooks are big! But my attention flew back to the Daiougoumi. i need to locate that one…
You might want to see if you can get scion wood from England’s Orchard & Nursery for Wang Bo goumi. It isn’t confirmed to be the same as Daiougoumi but there are some reports that it is large fruited. You would need to graft it though. I’m not aware of any source of Daiougoumi in the US yet.